• Lucky@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    It’s been widely reported by numerous nations and organizations. Search for “Russian genocide Ukraine” and you’ll see plenty of credible sources

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        11 months ago

        I’m wondering if you just posted the link without reading any results and are just doubling down to sound correct.

        One of the first articles is AP news reporting UN backed human rights groups calling it genocide

        https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-human-rights-663b3a4ba24499d93f3f889e98f8b652

        And an article by Time reporting the kidnapping of children being investigated as genocide, and that there is already enough evidence for the allegations

        https://time.com/6262903/russia-ukraine-genocide-war-crimes/

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          None of these articles formally come to the conclusion that there is a definitive genocide. They are meant to bait racist bloodthirsty rubes like you to into acting on your biases.

          Members of the U.N. Independent Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine also expressed concerns about allegations of genocide by Russian forces, and said they’re looking into them.

          expressed concerns about allegations

          looking into them

          Keep hallucinating wishfully.

          From statista:

          The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) verified a total of 9,614 civilian deaths during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as of September, 2023. Furthermore, 17,535 people were reported to have been injured. However, OHCHR specified that the real numbers could be higher.

          Even if these estimates are extremely conservative they are low for a genocide. Perhaps Russians are just terrible at genocide and should learn from Americans.

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                11 months ago

                President Zelenskyy is from a Ukrainian Jewish family. At the start of the war Russia claimed Ukraine was taken over by Nazis and they were trying to liberate the country. It was a ridiculous claim and they had to come up with other justifications afterwards

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                  Is it fair to characterise the Ukrainian leadership as Jewish because the President is Jewish?

                  With the same logic you could say that the USA was under “black leadership” when Obama was president. Whether that is technically true depends on what you mean by “black leadership” and what your expect to entail from it. However, under the leadership of the black president and various black members of House and Senate, black people still continued to be ghettoised, red lined, incarcerated disproportionately, and in general be socioeconomically disadvantaged.

                  With that in mind, is a Jewish president an enough of an influence to declare the whole leadership Jewish? How do you reconcile that with the constant barrage photos of Ukrainian soldiers with SS and Banderite insignias and tattoos?

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                    Well, in context of “the Nazis have taken over and our only option is a military operation to remove the government”, I highly doubt the Nazis would allow a Jewish person to be elected as president in the first place. If they don’t have that ability then they clearly don’t have enough power to justify a foreign invasion

                    If they were serious about stopping Nazis maybe they should have started with Dmitry Utkin who has Nazi tattoos and literally named the state-funded Wagner group after Hitler’s favorite composer.

                    It’s almost like this has never been about stopping Nazis at all

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          11 months ago

          Did you misread the AP link? The un group provides reports of war crimes, not genocide.