Another day, another update.
More troubleshooting was done today. What did we do:
- Yesterday evening @phiresky@[email protected] did some SQL troubleshooting with some of the lemmy.world admins. After that, phiresky submitted some PRs to github.
- @[email protected] created a docker image containing 3PR’s: Disable retry queue, Get follower Inbox Fix, Admin Index Fix
- We started using this image, and saw a big drop in CPU usage and disk load.
- We saw thousands of errors per minute in the nginx log for old clients trying to access the websockets (which were removed in 0.18), so we added a
return 404in nginx conf for/api/v3/ws. - We updated lemmy-ui from RC7 to RC10 which fixed a lot, among which the issue with replying to DMs
- We found that the many 502-errors were caused by an issue in Lemmy/markdown-it.actix or whatever, causing nginx to temporarily mark an upstream to be dead. As a workaround we can either 1.) Only use 1 container or 2.) set
proxy_next_upstream timeout;max_fails=5in nginx.
Currently we’re running with 1 lemmy container, so the 502-errors are completely gone so far, and because of the fixes in the Lemmy code everything seems to be running smooth. If needed we could spin up a second lemmy container using the proxy_next_upstream timeout;max_fails=5 workaround but for now it seems to hold with 1.
Thanks to @[email protected] , @[email protected] , @[email protected], @[email protected] , @[email protected] , @[email protected] for their help!
And not to forget, thanks to @[email protected] and @[email protected] for their continuing hard work on Lemmy!
And thank you all for your patience, we’ll keep working on it!
Oh, and as bonus, an image (thanks Phiresky!) of the change in bandwidth after implementing the new Lemmy docker image with the PRs.
Edit So as soon as the US folks wake up (hi!) we seem to need the second Lemmy container for performance. So that’s now started, and I noticed the proxy_next_upstream timeout setting didn’t work (or I didn’t set it properly) so I used max_fails=5 for each upstream, that does actually work.
server load is too low, everyone upvote more stuff so i can optimize more
edit: guess there is some more work to be done 😁
Upvote causes an endless spinner on Liftoff. 😁
I’m getting 504 gateway time outs when I try to upvote
For me it works way better than before
seems like it may have been a temporary issue. It’s clearing back up.
It doesn’t for me actually. Maybe just on Lemmy.world?
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Web-ui is very smooth rn… is this .world?
😅
Joke aside, the improvement is like heaven and earth. Love it!. Good work teams!I don’t understand your graph. It says you are measuring gigabit/sec but shouldn’t the true performance rating be gigabeans/sec for a Lemmy instance?
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Double the image upload size and you will see more shitposts
aye aye sir, to the upvote machine!
Test:
Upvote if you can see this comment. 👍
I love the smell of updates in the morning.
The change is noticeable. Good job guys.
Thanks for the updates.
You guys had better quit it with all this amazing transparency or it’s going to completely ruin every other service for me. Seriously though amazing work and amazing communication.
Thank you guys for your awesome work!
Also to other people: DONATE TO FOSS PROJECTS. If 50.000 people donate only 0.5€, we have 25.000€ for funding the servers, coding, motivating/ people etc. Just don’t take a cup of coffee for 1 day. We are already 2 millions in Lemmy instances. We can build a decentralized world together!!
you inspired me to serve the greater good!
This is why having a big popular instance isn’t all bad. It helps detect and fix the scaling problems and inefficiencies for all the other 1000s of instances out there!
This, if everyone kept just spreading out to smaller instances as suggested in the beginning, while still a sensible thing to do, no one would have noticed these performance issues. We need to think a few years out, assuming Lemmy succeeds and Reddit dies, and expect that “small instance” will mean 50k users.
I sincerely doubt reddit will die anytime soon, it’ll just exist as its own thing that it’s new target audience gets bored with and moves on from in a few years when something new and flashy catches their eye in the app store. Just like they do all the other apps designed in exactly the same fashion that reddit is currently morphing into.
Meanwhile Lemmy will be slowly building it’s communities up to be what reddit used to be.
I’m actually kinda waiting a few releases to start promoting my instance anywhere, letting some other brave instance admins work the kinks out a bit first.
Thank you so much for the hard work, time and money you spend into making lemmy.world run very smoothly. This much transparency is awesome for something that’s being used so massively.
As a data engineer, I’d be interested in hearing more about the SQL troubleshooting.
EDIT: It looks like [email protected] is a good place to subscribe to for more technical info on some of these performance improvements.
Also the Lemmy GitHub of course contains more information on bugs/enhancements/etc.
Same, my job is like 80% SQL, so it’d be cool to see what is used in the background and maybe help improve things.
Thank you so much! I will be donating a few cappuccinos your way when my next check arrives. I really appreciate how awesome of a community you’ve brought together & all of the transparency with the updates (and the frequency) is astounding! Keep up the great work but don’t forget to take breaks :)
Everytime I open a post and go back to previous page it scrolls back to top. Is this fixable? Im on windows 11, chrome.
Try wefwef. It remembers exactly where you were when you press back.
Thanks
That’s so awesome! Look at that GRAPH!
I’d volunteer to be a technical troubleshooter - very familiar with docker/javascript/SQL, not super familiar with rust - but I’m sure yall also have an abundance of nerds to lend a hand.
You should try to contact one of the admins of this server (Ruud is very busy tho, lots of mentions) and see if you could be of any help. I am sure they would appreciate even just the offer 😄
The instance seems to be much better. Posting and commenting is not taking as long and loading times are way better. I hope things can stay this good or even get better.
upvoting posts is so much more stable now, we might actually see more bean posts as a result
Am I getting this correct: the whole lemmy.world instance run in one single container on one single host?
You’d be surprised at how much performance this kind of setup can squeeze off. Often the limitation is more on the DB/storage than network handling and processing power.
This. Most of the time, the bottleneck will be the database backend.
Curious if lemmy.world uses separate reader/writer instances.
