• shatal@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    The problem is that you’re Americanising this conflict.

    There are Israeli Arabs, Druze and Bedouin that lived in the region for centuries and are now happy to identify as Israeli (look online for Arab Israelis for Israel. Get out of the echo chambers). There are Jewish families that have been there since the Roman empire.

    On the flip side there are hundreds of thousands of Palestinians that migrated to the region in the 1930’s and 40’s, their family names today still indicate their family origins in Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq etc.

    If you really want to dive down the historical rabbit hole of the region we’ll be here for hours, but trying to frame this conflict as a white colonisers vs indigenous people is historically and factually incorrect.

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      1 year ago

      But is it incorrect? You have people from Staten island and California move into an arab families home today and the IDF will protect them and the family whose home just got occupied better not twitch a muscle too abruptly. You’re painting this as if I have to draw from long settled history to support my argument, I don’t.

      But this displacement has been going on for close to a hundred years now. The establishment of the State of Israel had the zionist militias empty out villages and force the people into the desert trail of tears style. Like the establishment of any other colonial state and not just the US, but like the examples I mentioned before so I don’t know where this “americanising” is coming from, South Africa, Ireland, Congo, Haiti and many many many other countries before Israel.

      • shatal@lemmy.worldOP
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        1 year ago

        You’re mixing Gaza and the west bank.

        This is about Gaza and Hamas. The IDF had no presence in Gaza for 20 years now and Israel has not displaced anyone from there since 1967.

        Unless your argument is that Hamas represents all the Palestinians everywhere?