The Israel-Gaza war is “taking away the focus” from the conflict in Ukraine, the country’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has admitted.

He said this was “one of the goals” of Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

And he denied that fighting in Ukraine had reached a stalemate, despite a recent assessment to this effect by the country’s top military general.

Ukraine’s counter-offensive in the south has so far made little headway.

This has prompted fears of war fatigue among Kyiv’s Western allies, with suggestions of growing reluctance in some capitals to continue giving Ukraine advanced weapons and funds.

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    Never thought I’d agree with Zelensky about something related to Israel. Ukraine deserves aid much more than Israel.

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      I dont think Israel needs aid.

      They are responding to an agressor just the same and doing a great job

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        The problem is they are also the aggressor and have been for decades.

        Hamas and the Israeli government are both fucking awful.

        Feels like a stretch to call carpet bombing civilians a great job.

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        Israel absolutely does not need aid.

        If they need more killing equipment, their ruling class can pay for it.

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        Indiscriminate bombing of innocent civilians, refugee camps, and hospitals, all while refusing to allow even basic aid, is not a “great job”.

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    I hate to say it, but within minutes of hearing about the attack by Hamas against Israel, the unexpectedness of it, and the scale of it, I asked myself, “Who’s funding this,” and, “Who gains by this?” And my brain replied, “Putin.”

    Sure enough within days his puppets in our government (the USofA GOP) start talking about reducing/stopping aid to Ukraine.

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      Republicans were complaining about aid to Ukraine long before this. Russia is not as sophisticated a puppet master as you think.

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        While I agree immediately jumping to “Russia is backing this” is a small leap, this is hardle sophisticated, and hardly new. Russia and the US jave been involved in proxy wars for decades. Literally as long as either has been around, more or less, but pretty open about it since the cold war.

        And hamas officials meeting with putin in Russia doesn’t sell the “Russia isn’t behind it” story either.

        I believe it’s certainly possible, if not probable, but given tensions in the are never easy in occupied Palestine, it’s no surprise an oppressed people hit back once in awhile. It doesn’t take much prodding.

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      I’m pretty sure Iran arranged the attack, but Russia is definitely benefiting. That’s not an accident

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      It’s more complex than that, Israel and Russia have much more common geopolitical interest than you might expect if you follow analists: in Sirya for example. This while still having opposite positions about Iran. It’s just a mess.

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      Sure enough within days his puppets in our government (the USofA GOP) start talking about reducing/stopping aid to Ukraine.

      I mean, not to say you’re wrong exactly, but that’s not a new thing. Those same people have been demanding the same for a year and a half. Using Israel as their current excuse doesn’t mean much, just that they’re opportunistic shits, which isn’t really news.

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      The most likely intention for the brutality of the terror attack from October was stopping the diplomatic processes between Israel and other Arab countries to establish somewhat normal relations. Putin and Iran are definitely indirect beneficiaries, but there’s no need to create narratives where Hamas is the puppet of Iran or Russia because they did something that was aligned with their own interests.

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      Yeah I knew from the moment it happened that Putin was behind it. It’s a distraction from a much more important war.

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      It’s really the greatest example of fuck around find out.

      Punch someone in the head and they turn around and belt you, you kind of deserve it.

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      I think Israel right now wants to be Ukraine. Ukraine has won the people’s hearts by fighting so hard despite overwhelming odds. They’re paying with their lives to stop Russia not only from destroying them, but also from invading other parts of Europe.

      They should be honoured.

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        Maybe they should have stopped short of bullying terrorizing and straight up murdering civilians for checks notes walking home decades ago, then people might see the more sympathetically like Ukraine.

        Ukraine is by no means perfect, I have known quite a few from my more religious teenage years having gone on a church trip. We had a woman named Ina attend our church for many years, and although she stopped going (same) I see her around town all the time. My point is I’ve heard stories for decades about the bad and the good. Israel has a lot of catching up to do if they want sympathy.

        And also Ukraine didn’t respond to Russia invading by blowing up hospitals, schools, and Russian refugee camps in Sevastapol.

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      Well, the naming of the article has sure aged liked milk.

      Any pro russian dumbass can point to it (without reading it, of course) and scream: “SEE SEE! THESE EVIL UKRAINIANS WANT TO KILL ALL RUSSIANS 😭😭😭😭” while the article just says they need to focus on security and intelligence which (until now) Israel was known for. The attack shows it wasn’t really true.

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    It’s creating a new front in regards to the proxy wars. Russia still has the numerical advantage over Ukraine in regards of people it throws into the grinder, but now Iran can get more involved by trying to harass through the Israel-Hamas conflict which decreases the provisions available for Ukraine.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    This has prompted fears of war fatigue among Kyiv’s Western allies, with suggestions of growing reluctance in some capitals to continue giving Ukraine advanced weapons and funds.

    Russia’s defence ministry was later quoted by the country’s state-run news agencies as saying that 13 out of 15 Ukrainian missiles fired on the plant in the city of Kerch, eastern Crimea, were shot down, but a Russian ship was damaged.

    Speaking at Saturday’s briefing in Kyiv with visiting European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, Mr Zelensky said: “It’s clear that the war in the Middle East is taking away the focus” from Ukraine.

    The Ukrainian leader recalled that last year, there had also been a lot of talk about a stalemate on the vast battlefield in Ukraine - but he pointed to Kyiv’s subsequent major military victories in the north-eastern Kharkiv region and Kherson in the south.

    “All the [war] goals that were set must be achieved,” Dmitry Peskov said, adding that Ukraine must realise that “even talking about any prospects for the Kyiv regime’s victory on the battlefield is absurd”.

    President Putin has repeatedly claimed that Ukraine’s counter-offensive had failed, while his Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said this week that Kyiv was losing the war despite supplies of new weapons from Nato allies.


    The original article contains 698 words, the summary contains 213 words. Saved 69%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    If you think this is bad, just wait until China goes for Taiwan. “Like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.”

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      China is not going to go for Taiwan.

      Wish you guys would get this fantasy out of your heads.

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          Let us know by what time you think China will invade Taiwan.

          When that year comes and the invasion doesn’t happen, either admit you’re wrong or double-down.

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            he said source.

            as in, reason us why? china has clearly expressed this desire over Taiwan, why wouldn’t it invade ever at all on a timeline?

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              I don’t care what he said.

              How much time needs to pass before you admit you’re wrong?

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                  these reditgrants are sure pain in the ass.

                  i just asked for proof and they started blabbing. at the same time these hypocrites also dislike religions.

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    What is taking away the focus is the fact that he supported the ethnic cleansing and genocide that Israel is committing in Palestine. So he thought that these things are not inherently bad, but only bad when they are happening to yourself - and fuck everyone else.

    Now he’s just finding out that that might not have been the smartest move, if he have to explain to the world again that they must give a fuck about his war.

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    It’s best that this conflict ends sooner rather than later. I’ve heard that Ukraine is outnumbered 3 to 1 and is sending injured soldiers and teenagers to the front lines. There’s no hope of them winning. Hindsight is 20/20 and it’s clear that the Ukrainians’ best option would’ve been to surrender in February 2022 and negotiate a peace agreement when they still had some bargaining power. Now they have none and this guy will go down in shame as Ukraine’s worst leader.

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      They did have a peace agreement after Russia invaded…in 2014. Russia was handed Crimea. Yet, Appeasing dictators was proven yet again to not work. So, today they defend themselves from the invader.

      We must continue to support them, we must continue to ensure Russia does not win their war of conquest.

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        You’ve lost the plot. More weapons can’t solve a lack of soldiers. Unless Western Europe/NATO plan to start WW3, the outcome has been decided. The humane thing isn’t to cheer for more war, but to understand that cheering for war itself was a mistake.

        We were told Ukraine could win. We were told wrong. The people who gave us this false impression also told us we’d win the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last I checked, those wars didn’t result in the victory we were promised, either.

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          Every gun and dollar given to Ukraine is a gun and dollar used against Russia, one of the US’s most obnoxious enemies. Every resource that Russia has to spend in the war is more expensive for them than it is for us, which will give them less resources to spend on being a pain to the US. Ukraine has almost no reason not to fight since losing means a loss of their country anyways, we could either take advantage of this opportunity or we can wait until Ukraine is weaker.

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            At least this take is honest about the disregard for human lives as long as it furthers the interests of the US.