World was already the biggest by far when I first started lurking back in July, and it’s just getting more dominant. Before, there was quite some diversity in the distribution of generic communities, but nowadays the vast majority of posts that reach the top are from over there.
I really can’t see any specific virtue that it has; uptime is not the best (or so I’ve heard), the moderation is quite lacking (which is demonstrated by the fact that Beehaw defederated them), they make some unpopular moderation choices (like blocking [email protected]), and overall the atmosphere is a lot less… nice than those of smaller instances.
I also feel like it goes against the idea of the Fediverse that one instance has control over most of the platform. Especially on Lemmy, where communities mean that building community within an instance makes so much more sense than elsewhere, and upvotes are federated near perfectly regardless the size of your instance, decentralisation makes a lot of sense. It really just doesn’t make sense to me that Lemmy World is where people are going.
I dunno though. Most trolls and bad actors that I have seen around here have indeed been from sh.itjust.works and Lemmy World.
Edit: Ah, that explains it. Beehaw is such a chill place, I could never imagine them doing such things.
The are in the top 5 biggest instances (and programming.dev changed their own account of active users recently), so statistically that makes sense.
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
Together, they make up
a bit moreless than 50% of active users, yet basically all far-right trolls are from there. You could say it is more difficult to moderate big instances, but if you have more users to moderate, you should also increase moderating capacity or close registrations.Interesting, my personal experience has been more spread, including a few very toxic users on lemme.ee.
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We do not make up for 50% of the active users. Also we have plenty of moderators and admins, reports get handled pretty fast. It’s up to the community moderators first but if it takes too long one of the admins will step in.
And we will never close registrations.
I remember it used to be higher, now it is approx. 41%. Only strengthens my point, though.
I see different things. There are quite some trolls and abusive accounts that don’t seem to get removed.
I’m just saying the moderation has to improve in some way.
That doesn’t say much about LW besides being the biggest instance - because trolls beeline towards larger audiences.
Closing registrations might be the sensible approach here. Because the necessary moderation grows exponentially, and eventually too large of a mod/admin team becomes a problem on its own.
The barrier of an application is enough to scare off most non-serious users. I used to favor open registration, but after making an account and participating on an instance with open registration vs closed, I found the closed registration shuts down a lot of bad actors and makes the instance a more pleasant community.
I’m not even advocating for rejecting any of the applications, just having questions to answer before joining seems to significantly cut down on the trolls.
I dont know why you’re getting down voted, as a moderator basically all the “death to brown people” comments I have to delete are from that shithole and lemm.ee.
~~https://sh.itjust.works/post/4279462~~
~~https://sh.itjust.works/post/4188546~~
~~https://sh.itjust.works/post/4281207~~
Their admin reaction~~https://hexbear.net/post/504353~~
“Sh.itholefor.nazis” very mature…Forget that, I always mix up Beehaw and Hexbear!
If you don’t want to be called Nazis, then stop putting up with all the fascists in your instance. Pretending the problem doesn’t exist is definitely the mature stance to take when someone points out that your instance is harboring fascists.
Lol yeah I just migrated my account away from beehaw because they do plan on leaving eventually and it’s kind of jarring how much more low effort posting there is now.