Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

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      Great thing about the fediverse

      People get to decide what they want from their platform

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        Surely you’re aware of the embrace, extend, extinguish corporate strategy.

        People only get to decide what they want from their platform until facebook starts extending the spec. Then your client will become incompatible with some posts, and so on and so forth.

        In summary, it’s a threat to the platform itself.

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        Exactly, I hereby decide that I would like to ignore corporate efforts to undermine this burgeoning new platform. I furthermore reserve the right to complain about the loss of said platform in future years by claiming that it’s everyone elses fault for allowing corporate encroachment.

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      Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

      I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

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      Then go join threads.net? Nobody’s stopping you from doing that. That would put you on a server friendly to your beliefs.

      Server admins also have opinions, and are not required to take a democratic vote and each individual user’s choice into account. They can decide for themselves, and they will, for good or ill. If you don’t like where it ends up, your user decision should be to fuck off to threads.

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        I don’t think that’s what they’re saying.

        They’re saying that some users and admins might choose to wait and see

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          “Yes, Jeffrey has, in the past, killed and eaten gay men. But we should wait and see. It’s impolite not to invite him to the party!”

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            I don’t want to use their platform, but I get why some people might choose to stay federated so that there is incentive to pull people to mastodon and educate people about the issues

            There’s enough nuance there that I’m not dead set on either side, and I think we still have the chance to defederate later if there’s an increase in spam and harmful content / disinformation.

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              “Jeffrey doesn’t always eat people. Just sometimes. We should totally go clubbing with him and spurn him later if he eats one of us.”

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        I don’t want to join a proprietary service, but I want to be able to communicate with people who chose to join it.

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      This is a bigger issue to leave it to users imo. Like lemm.ee admin said a few months ago, threads is too fucking big.

      Anything they push on the fediverse will be what users see in All. Plus, popular stuff on threads is determined through Facebook’s algorithm, and it will also determine the fediverse recommendations by consequence.

      The above is solvable if you block them I guess, but by default it will completely ruin everything.

      However, lemmy 0.19 block feature doesn’t work on users of an instance, only posts hosted in an instance. Add to this that Facebook is a cancerous company making all its money from ads. Expect their bots to comment and make posts pushing ads on all instances.

      All of this will also mean high workload on mods to regulate the content. Threads doesn’t bring anything good here, and defederation is probably the only way to protect us.

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        The above is solvable if you block them I guess, but by default it will completely ruin everything.

        Yes. One minute of a user’s time and all that’s gone.

        Compare that with having to move instances due to admins blocking at the instance level.

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      You have the full right to decide, you can switch servers to one that chooses to, or open multiple accounts. That’s your choice. This isn’t Nostr, in the Fediverse instance blocking is normal and it happens without your input, but you know what does happen with your input? Registering your account on a server that fits your needs best, or as close as possible.

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      Generally, yes. Perhaps unpopularly, I don’t need to decide about suddenly having meta content in Lemmy. I expect that’s not ever gonna happen.

      Having Elongated Musk or Fart Suckerberg in my stream cannot be the default, but at best, opt in.

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      This is why I don’t understand all the hysteria about this.

      If I don’t want to see Threads or I don’t want Threads to see me, I can go to a Threads account and click “block threads.net”.

      But obviously that’s too complicated and it’s easier to just whinge to your instance admin about how Threads federation will be the death of us all. 🙄

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        If there was a bot that just flooded All with far right talking points, do you think admins ought to block that or leave it to the users?

        What if it was far right mixed in with cat memes?

        What if it started more slowly like a few posts an hour and then ramped up over 6 months to be 1000s of posts per hour?

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            Sure, but where is the line between spam and threads content? If the content a community produces is heavily manipulated, isn’t that undesirable for all the same reasons as spam ?

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            Do you think any users would populate a place that’s over-run with trash?

            If there are, would they be the type of users who would populate communities you would feel comfortable in?

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              Do you think any users would populate a place that’s over-run with trash?

              • Facebook.
              • Instagram.
              • Twitter (pre-Apartheid Edgelord).
              • Twitter/X (post-Apartheid Edgelord).
              • … and a cast of hundreds.

              Seems that yes, they would.

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        You understand that no matter how much you kneel down to service Meta, Zuck the Fuck won’t be trickling anything down on you that isn’t a bodily fluid, right?

        And hey, I’m not going to kink-shame. Just pointing out that if that isn’t your specific kink, you might want to wake up to there being zero dollars trickling down to you.

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          What a meaningless, worthless comment. Letting Threads federate with the rest of the Fediverse doesn’t give Zuckerberg power over us (unless you’d care to explain how it does) - rather, it just gives its users and our users the ability to interacted. Why are you so interested in building walls?

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            I swear, I’m seeing the western equivalent of wumaos servicing Meta here. Only at least the wumaos got paid; it made sense. These idiots are doing the labour for free!