cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1111823

A new Senate report calls out the FBI for lying to Congress about its social media monitoring, pointing out the FBI’s hiring of ZeroFox.

  • Chipthemonk@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Hyperbole much? The US consists of over 350 million people. You think all of them are racist? The people make the country. You’re getting upvotes because it’s a simple statement to make, but it’s not the truth. The US is an amazing country. There are still many racists, but there are less now than there were before, and this will continue to improve as we move forward.

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      1 year ago

      It being a racist country doesn’t mean each person is racist. The country took part in decades of genocide, slavery, segregation, coups in countless countries, placed countless dictators in power, and inspired the Nazis (yes literally).

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        It’s had its issues, there’s no doubt about that. But it set the precedent for a new kind of society in 1760. It’s an amazing country.

        Also, it didn’t inspire the Nazis, that is a ridiculous comment.

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        1 year ago

        I no longer see systemic racism like there was at one time. Do you know if any government policies that are racist in nature? I don’t.

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            1 year ago

            No, it’s liberal free speech. The big news outlets in America do not report their apartheid.

            Only leftist media does and you’re labeled a terrorist for watching it.

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            1 year ago

            Show me one law that is racist? I bet you can’t. At one time it was common. Ie. Where you could sit on a bus.

            If anything we now have laws that are the opposite and support minorities.

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              1 year ago

              The entire war on drugs is a racist endeavour that has created racist drug laws.

              "You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

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              1 year ago

              man, I guess the annual (at least) police killings of unarmed black people (including at least 2-3 children) just didn’t happen?

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                Do you know what the definition of systemic racism means? I think few people here do. It means there are laws and policies that are racist.

                You will always have racist cops and neighbors and teachers. That is not systemic. That is just shitty people. Once you identify them and can prove it, then you can take action. Some always slip thru.

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                  1 year ago

                  this is a weird take; aren’t police literally the arbiters of said systemically racist policies and laws?

                  like isn’t that their colloquial job definition?

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                    Systemic or institutional racism is defined as having official policy in place to encourage racism. That was certainly the case in the 60s. Systemic being the key word I don’t think people understand.

                    We have the opposite of that now in that we have all kinds of laws to l that can be used against those that are proven to be racist within their job. Key world is that it has to be proven and often that is not obvious to after an incident.

                    But if you think we have a problem with systemic racism, tell me one policy or law that is encourages racism.

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                  1 year ago

                  You will always have racist cops and neighbors and teachers. That is not systemic.

                  If the system does not prevent, stop, or punish the racist constituent actors (cops, neighbors, teachers), is it not racist? Is it not systemic racism to not stop individual acts of racism, especially when they’re performed by agents of the state (e.g., cops, lawmakers, judges, teachers)? Just because it’s not a top-down demand by the state of “you, agent of the state, must act racist” does not mean it’s not systemic racism.

                  That is just shitty people.

                  There is no such thing as a system as such. It’s just people. If the members are racist, and their collective doesn’t do anything to address (or even occasionally rewards) that behavior, the system is racist.

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      Ironic that you criticized the comment for hyperbole and then use the straws an fallacy to try to shoot it down. The comment did not claim that all 350 million people are racist. You just acted like it did so you could criticize it.

      And yes, the US is an amazing country with far fewer racists than ever before. I agree with you there.

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      1 year ago

      the government is racist, though

      like demonstrably racist

      OP wasn’t talking about the average people