• lingh0e@lemmy.film
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      lemmy.world defederated from a instance full of pro-russia shitheel trolls who would ruin any discussions regarding Ukraine. It’s very nice not having to scroll through their propaganda.

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        Meh. I never saw anything like that. Usually russian-sympathizers are downvoted into oblivion and there’s not that many of them.

        I’m curious exactly what these people were saying, but now I’ll never get to see because someone else decided to censor it for me.

        Not really defederating, but I hope we can update lemmy so censorship is optional. You can choose to have posts hidden by mods hidden from you, or not. That way everyone wins, except for the children who think “I don’t want to see this, so neither should anyone else!” And honestly, who cares about those kids?

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          I got kicked from communities in lemmy.ml a year ago when I tried Lemmy for the first time, for not worshipping everything China did.

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            Glad that you actually came to saner instances once they came live, and didn’t just feel aversion to the Fediverse as a whole.

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              I mean I did just stop using Lemmy for a year. Then when Reddit did dumb and Lemmy exploded, I forgot that Lemmy was what I had tried.

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      hexbear is an instance full of communist trolls

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        Being pro Russia because you’re pro communist is so fucking weird to me. The Russian federation is an imperialist capitalist oligarchical fascist state.

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          If you look at it from the idea that they see non-western or more specifically anti-american as good by default, then a lot of their positions make a lot more sense. I suspect that if the US became the perfect communist utopia theyd still be anti-American.

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            They hate the US so much they have to bring it up continuously, everywhere and more so if the post has nothing to do with the US.

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              And look. I get being critical of the US, we’re a mess, but the solution to the problems in our country isn’t a slightly different authoritarian regime

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                Fucking seriously. I’m all for smashing the system, but those assholes have more in common with my racist Trump voting relatives than… you know… good people.

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                It’s been almost two months since I got here, and I’m still not used to seeing blatantly nuanced and sensible views. I might be a little damaged.

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            I get what you’re saying, but I disagree with “make a lot more sense”. It still doesn’t make logical sense, but this is how these people indeed think.

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              Oh it doesnt make sense for anyone with any ampunt of logical reasoning, but it atleast give an explanation how their reasoning works.

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            This is the correct take. They aren’t pro-Russia because they’re “communists”, they’re pro-Russia because they’re anti-west, even if that means looking the other way when there’s imperialism of the unexpected color.

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          Being pro Russia because ‘own the left’ and ‘our guy has autocratic dreams’ is even weirder

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            I swear to god it seemed like there was a massive shift in pro Russian sentiment when we all found out Russia had interfered in the 2016 election because

            1. Obama was doing sanctions about it and a certain group of people is always anti Obama, regardless of what that means, politically
            2. Russia had interfered on behalf of the guy they wanted, therefore Russian interference good
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          Logic has no place in that weird mob mentality. They’re basically pro fascism, just you know the fascists that aren’t Western. Makes it good fascism somehow.

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          Because they’re not communists, they’re just fascists that don’t like being called fascists.

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            The lengths to which they cry just because people use the word “tankie” is ludicrous. They also have this custom to equate “tankie” and “communist” the same way not too politically literate right wingers do.

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              Yeah it’s all down to the political spectrum bullshit. Far left and far right are complete opposite ends of the spectrum so therefore completely antithetical to one another!

              Meanwhile in the real world, fascists and communists (well at least the Leninist/Maoist/Stalinist ones) are all just authoritarians with slightly different rationalizations for it. I kinda feel like the only reason the concept of left/right political spectrum even exists is so some authoritarians in academic circles can claim to be nothing like the Nazis.

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          No. They are not.

          Half of them are the obnoxious trust fund goons who lived on your floor in the dorms and had posters of Che on their walls. They generally came from wealth and this anti-capitalist rhetoric is just them rebelling against their parents. Their dad is probably a non-practicing jew who drives a VW Phaeton . They don’t know their birth mothers too well but their step moms are probably women who graduated from high school two classes ahead of themselves. The obnoxious goons who base their entire personality on these kinds of interactions, they pride themselves on being “disliked for speaking truth to power”.

          The other half are shitheel trolls who are too wrapped up in their own attempts at edgy bullshit to understand the difference between “it’s just a joke, bro” and “just drink the fucking kool-aid, bro”.

          Neither of those groups have any sense of self awareness.

          So nah, they aren’t communists.

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            Half of them are the obnoxious trust fund goons who lived on your floor in the dorms and had posters of Che on their walls.

            That’s… so specific. It sounds like you’re just saying things, lol.

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            Your dad ever bought a Jaffa orange ? well he’s buying nukes for Israël. He’s a jew

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        Lemme guess, they say fringe opinions you don’t like and that makes them trolls?