Considering to buy one for a family member.

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        How is that guy trying to actually argue that vaping is as harmful as smoking? What an insane thing to say.

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          Well the argument is the video you linked, I don’t have time to rewatch it but you can look in the sources:

          https://sites.google.com/view/sources-vaping/

          Myth 1: Vaping is just as harmful as smoking

          Fact: Nicotine vaping is not risk-free, but it is substantially less harmful than smoking.

          I suggest you watch the material you link in the future and I’ll point out that no one is arguing that vaping is safe, only less bad.

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              Who’s “you people”?

              And well yes, new health hazards will be discovered about vaping, there is no doubt about it. Just as new health hazards are still discovered about smoking. But as of our scientific knowledge right now it’s better, and it’s unlikely to shift because the main source of toxins has been eliminated: combustion. I’ve yet to see a source that says otherwise and you have no other way than to use the current knowledge to make a choice.

              I don’t really see your point, why should people keep doing what we know to be worse?

              And what do you call mid, long-term? Because vaping has been around long enough to have people that have been doing it for almost 20 years.

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                  I’m not trying to shift the conversation, vaping is better as a replacement. Whether it’s to quit altogether or not afterwards is irrelevant.

                  I don’t get why you say it’s not regulated because it is, at least in my country and in a lot of others.

                  There are a lot of research, the sources for the video you posted has some, here is another well known one.

                  I also don’t understand why you speak about water related to vapor. Vapor, or gas, is a state of matter, if you heat something, anything, it’ll vaporise (or boil as we say for water) into a gas. Different elements have different melting points, that’s why cannabis vaporisers have an adjustable temperature. Set it low and only the THC will vaporise, higher and you’ll get the CBD too. That’s why combustion is so bad, because the temperature is so high that almost everything vaporise, there is no point in having a temperature this high, it’ll vaporise so many toxic elements. We can discuss nicotine vaporisation because there can issues with elements coming from the flavouring, but for cannabis it’s very straightforward, using a lower temperature than what you get with combustion gets you all the interesting substances (maybe not some terpenes that gives some flavours) without a lot of the toxic ones. Also the herbs are never going to be 100% dry so they’ll have some water, creating a little bit of steam, but that’s only one of the many vaporised elements.