Considering to buy one for a family member.

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    2 days ago

    This is what’s called “risk reduction”, less harmful is better.

    I meant regulated as having standards, of course.

    Of course it says further research is needed, most papers say that. Again I’ve yet to see a paper that puts vape as more harmful that smoke.

    I’ve never seen vape marketing using the word steam, vapor is the scientifically correct word, it’s not an aerosol. An aerosol is a solid or liquid element in suspension inside a gas, this is not the case, the elements you are inhaling are gaseous, it’s a vapor.

    And how would you know the amount of water in the myst you see? How can you visually differentiate between the elements? The vapor is composed of all the elements with lower boiling point (I made a mistake using the word melting point in my previous message) than what you set on the vaporiser. Smoke has water in it too.

    It’s really simple, burn the thing and you get a very night temperature, almost everything gets vaporised, a lot of elements react to create more harmful ones and you get a lot of smoke (with a little bit of water in it too). Now use a vaporiser, heat it a lot less, to a lower temperature and less elements get vaporised, there are way less reactions (no CO) and you get way less visible gas.

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        2 days ago

        Yeah, I expected this.

        You accuse me of shifting the conversation and you end up being the one doing it. I never said the conversation was irrelevant, I said that whether or not the end goal was to stop or not was irrelevant in deciding about switching to a less toxic mode of consumption.

        You complain that it’s mostly bro-saying, marketing and low quality source but when the conversation becomes serious you drop it and never bring any research to your argument.

        And you don’t even know the definition of words central to the subject, like vaporisation or aerosol, and yet you act like you know, saying so many approximate to downright false things. It’s OK not to know a subject, no one can know everything, but don’t act like you, misleading people along the way.

        I’m OK continuing this conversation if you bring some substance to it. Other please edit your initial message to avoid misleading people.