• Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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    3 days ago

    As in most things: it depends. Your question is too broad for an answer lacking nuance. But why did you ask?

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      2 days ago

      Ohh was just musing on it from a legal perspective. It’s the one thing I can think of that’s a decision driven protected class.

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        1 day ago

        It is funny how attacks on the protected classes seem to rhyme. Homosexuality is presented as being a decision to try attack it. Gender identity is presented as being a choice to try and discredit it.

        Now I’ll agree that religion is a class someone can move through, from Christian to muslim, to atheist and finally Buddhist for example. But I don’t think that particularly matters. Someone can realise their sexual identity later in life, then realise they are wrong and it was something else. I don’t think that’s them making decisions, so much as learning more about themselves and the world. So how someone can move around a religious space doesn’t really interest me in terms of what it means as a protected class.

        Muse away, transphobes have trodden a lot of ground if you want a head start.

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          Don’t really understand your last sentence there. Seems inflammatory though. Religion is something you are not born with that’s my point. It’s akin to your favorite sports team as far as I’m concerned.

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            24 hours ago

            “There is no gay gene, people arent born gay” it rhymes. Lately it’s being used to question trans-rights to suggest they aren’t born that way either.

            All moot though, born that way, not born that way, doesn’t matter at all. It’s a way of making one protected class feel lesser than another in order to discredit them.

            This was my “are we the baddies” moment, some 15 years ago btw. Someone pointed out that my anti-thiest rhetoric and the “just asking questions” I was asking were incredibly reminiscent of the other bigots. Of course, in the moment “they were wrong”, “I was right”, “yada yada yada”. But, later when I had time for some introspection, I asked myself why do anti-thiests quack like the other bigots, and more importantly why was I quacking too.

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              3 hours ago

              Well I’d say being anti religion is not the same. For one it’s punching up at the moment. I don’t care what you practice with yourself but growing up in a system that uses Christianity as a cudgle has really pissed me off. I also don’t agree with those morons saying homosexuality is a choice, that’s categorically false imo. To be honest I don’t feel that religion should be a protected class when I see it solely used to hurt others. I think you’re also just trying to associate me with those bigots for some weird reason and honestly I don’t appreciate it.

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                Yup, I covered your response in my comment above “you’re right”, “I’m wrong”, “yada yada yada”. For my own part I realised anti-thiests were, by and large, just another load of bigots that justify their bigotry as being “justified” or “not the same” like all bigot do. Some idiots, like me get taken in. Anyway 15 years later my then idol, Richard Dawkins, famous anti-thiest comes out as a transphobe too. Who knew bigots are bigots right? I’m just saying if you don’t like being compared to ducks stop quacking.

                Also, you replied to yourself. Maybe you forgot to sign in to an alt, maybe it’s a failed edit, maybe it’s a bug. As to your response “blacks have weaponsied racism against the whites and use it as a cudgel” is not an uncommon sentiment, “feminism is being used to oppress men” is another, you’re still quacking.

                If you don’t believe religion should be a protected class you agree people should be able to oppress you for your athiesm. Athiesm shouldn’t be seen as a default any more than white, straight, cis, able-bodied, not pregnant, etc

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                3 hours ago

                When religion is used to deny others their human rights then religion can fuck right off. I don’t see any of these other protected classes using that protection as an offensive tool.