The recent incident from a school in Muzaffarnagar highlights, once again, how many of India’s institutions, and its people, are failing the country’s Muslims.

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    the only safe spots are those without religion. there is no alternative. we must cull the grasp of religion on humans as we have other barbaric practices if we are to move past this violence and hate.

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      We would just find another reason to hate. The problem is people and power not necessarily religion.

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        If cancer was cured tomorrow, people would still eventually die, but I would rather live in a world without cancer than with.

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        Better not try then, let’s just accept our fate and not attempt to do anything about it

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          Why is gutting religion the only solution? Most of humanity is religious so that seems like a really fucking stupid hill to die on when climate change is a problem we all should be preparing for. Maybe we should focus on what we have in common and build the need to collectivize from there.

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            The amount of people raped, beaten, and murdered in the name of religion is unfathomable. That’s why. We should absolutely deal with climate change AND get rid of all religions.

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            I don’t know why you don’t think they are related nor do I see why you think we can’t work on more than one problem at once. Also if you want to talk about the lack of unity you might not want to mention religion.

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            there is no peace without it. you think traditional mulims will not oppose trans rights movement? there is no coexistance with people following religious rules.

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              Look at the comment you replied to. The converse of that is religion is the problem and the cause of hate rather than the excuse.

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                The answer is simple:

                Religion is not based in fact.

                We need solutions based on facts if we are going to handle the problems our species faces.

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        this is the same excuse conservatives use in the united states to keep human killing weapons at home. it doesnt mean we shouldnt get rid of guns. it means we get rid of guns and govern the people

        same here. we can move towards abolishing the root cause of most racism and hate (religion) as well as policing and educating the terrible populace that require it.

        to turn a blind eye on the root cause, is to prove you have motive in its existence.

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          That is a false equivalence.

          It is also not true that religion is the cause of most hate. That’s simply not believable in a world where money/possession exists.

          Your post really comes across as incredibly immature and extremely bigoted. You can fix that.

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              People give themselves that excuse religion just happens to be the justification. Look at how many hateful atheists there are wanting to force people to abandon religion because they do not find value in it.

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                Look at how many hateful atheists there are wanting to force people to abandon religion

                How many? Also, from that point of view religious people are hatefully pushing their beliefs on others.

                People have a right to their religion, or lack-there-of. My point was that religions give permission to hate (in the text), and that’s not ok.

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                TIL asking for religion to not be involved in secular government and a mean comment on social media is “forced” in the exact same sense of the world the theists of world are doing to us.