Ive heard of eco-terrorism but this is ridiculous
I know your comment was light-hearted in nature, but I’d like to point out from the article:
"Investigators say the Rio Preto-Jacunda reserve is >bordered by ranches with a record of environmental crimes, >including repeated encroachments on the reserve.
Razing protected rainforest for pasture is an illegal but >lucrative business in Brazil, the world’s top beef exporter.
The crime often hits remote, hard-to-police nature reserves, >overlapping with other organized criminal activities >destroying the Amazon, including illegal logging and gold >mining."
These are people looking to make a buck with a ‘fuck you, got mine’ attitude. And it’s happening all over the world in grey-areas with regards to law enforcement. Burning down stuff is one of the favoured methods, especially if you can bribe officials to say that it was an accident (as does not seem to be the case here, however so props for that for what it’s worth).
The article also mentions death threats by the ones doing the arson towards those against their interests. People are the reason we can’t have nice things.
This is a case of ‘if you don’t laugh you’ll cry.’
It’s really fucking horrendous in reality. And I don’t expect Brazil to have the means or inclination to deal with this appropriately either.
Do the same thing they do for poachers, have armed guards that shoot to kill and ask questions later.
As nice as it sounds, I don’t think it’s feasible. The Amazon is absolutely massive and not very populated. The logistics of keeping armed guards all around the protected areas sounds like a nightmare. The only way I can see deforestation actually stopping is if cattle, soy and wood stop being lucrative businesses somehow.
I mean, couldn’t policies be attempted to at least make the business less lucrative in protected areas specifically? For example, if a protected area burns down, having a policy of occasionally inspecting that bit of burned land and confiscating any cattle found grazing there, to make illegally cleared land more risky to use?
Yeah those ranchers should be executed.
I guess the only real change we could effect is if “bee from Brazil” was flat out banned in a lot of western countries. Could not be imported. But heh, as if the industry big wigs who could not care any less (they’ll all be dead from old age by the time this truly has significant big fallout so they don’t care, naturally) will do that.
But yeah, need to remove the market to truly impact this, beyond making it illegal in the first place.
You’d think. On paper, it’s the logical response. Irl, anything not on the market is going on the black market
The human race will get what it deserves. You think everyone will accept climate change after it kills a billion+ people?
Nope, it feels like most people are too far gone for that and they’ll never accept it. All thanks to these dumb politicians that took bribes to cover it up for years and years. Thanks for making our futures so much worse…
Except it isn’t “humanity”, it is a tiny percentage of rich fucks destroying the planet for profit, and maintaining a system that feeds off of oppression, exploitation, greed and selfishness.
When you blame “humanity” you also blame those living in the Amazon trying their best to save it, as well as every other poor bastard born in to this world with no power or means of getting it.
These generalisations only serve to keep the rage from its rightful target.
While the influence from the elite is undeniable, I also hope you don’t subscribe to the idea of the noble savage.
WTF?! That’s ecocide. It muct be punished.
It’s standard behavior there.
I know someone from the deep amazon brasilian states and there is a complete disregard in the person when trying to have a civil discussion about conservation. And it is very easy to infer that it is not an isolated case but a standard way of life and thought.
Because there is so much land and so much wilderness, paired with so much distance from developed areas and a lack of a truly organized central government, people feel in the right to take what they want, when they want it, with no fear for reprimand.
This is a person that just picked a piece of land on the end of an undeveloped area, where a dirt road was open, cut down some of the vegetation to outline an area and then just set fire to it to clear the land for building. No concern for safety, building codes, building permits, sewage and eletrical infrastructure, nothing. Because, and I quote, “if you leave it be, in one year everything grows back”.
And when it comes to animals, anything is fair game. Monkeys,
leopardsjaguars (take in mind large cats are generally not considered as food anywhere in the world), alligators, all kinds of wild fish and birds - including macaws and tucans - capibaras, tapirs, anything and everything is on the menu because, and I quote again, “the jungle is full of creatures”.This is plain disregard towards the basic notion of being civilized.
It’s complicated. Not the need to save the Amazon, but the fact that we need to save it because the developed world is largely developed because they did things like clearing forests and otherwise damaging the ecosystem in the name of economic progress.
I don’t have the answers, but I have to imagine it would involve an international effort to compensate Brazil for their lost “productivity”, a program to properly share that wealth, additional aid/assistance to prevent further destruction of the Amazon, and legitimate international deterrents that provide exorbitantly heavy punitive actions against the criminal bosses who order these types of acts.
But that’s just my back of napkin spitball of how to approach it. I’m the furthest thing away from having any meaningful expertise, knowledge, or insight, into how the Amazon can actually be saved.
Burn those that did this alive. I’ll light it.
Then it went up in flames, allegedly torched by land-grabbers trying to reclaim the territory for cattle pasture.
A little hippie in me ask people to seek out and pay for more sustainable produced meat, buy cultured meat in the future, or just eat less meat.
This risk of unreliability is one downside of carbon capture using trees or other plants.
Unless the carbon is moved under ground, where it cannot escape again due to accidents or arson or the like, it’s not safely removed.
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