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Cake day: July 2nd, 2023

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  • Usually when discussing a heated topic (politics, gun control-take your pick) and trying to discuss the facts of the matter in a neutral manner but the response comes back with every phrase super charged with morally loaded words. Examples of a conversation I had recently (emphasis mine):

    sure as hell isn’t PANDERING! What the fuck is wrong with you??

    Typical apologist tactic

    PRETENDING to care about the brutal slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians

    deflecting to your conspiracy theory

    shows that YOU don’t care enough about Palestinian lives

    It’s very pronounced on this site for some reason. I don’t know why.

















  • It seems to me you have more of an issue with the concept of the draft, which ok, is a fine position to take. Nothing wrong with having a stance on that. Some people are pacifists and radically opposed to any type of armed conflict or draft service. But there are valid arguments for the draft too, so you can’t just write them off by painting Zelenski into some type of tyrannical despot.

    But that’s neither here or there. The country is already in the midst of a full fledged war and elections don’t typically occur in time of war.

    I’ve found that it’s best to be precise when articulating a position. When you paint things in broad strokes (ie Zelenskis cabinet as authoritarian) you are inviting unnecessary argumentation from other sides. If your thesis is that the draft is authoritarian then argue your point why you think that is. For instance, I do contend that the draft was executed in Russia under Putin is a manifestation of an authoritarian exercise because there is no justification for the war. Russian soldiers are not going to the meat grinder to defend their homeland. It’s a completely different take. I can also provide counter arguments as to why the notion of the draft is not authoritarian when it’s implemented in the service of defense.