These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.

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    Then you’re showing your privilege, and clearly haven’t seen the thousands of images and videos of shredded children coming out of Palestine for the past year.

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      Yeah, and I plan to vote against Netanyahu’s buddy who keeps saying he should do “whatever it takes to finish the job”. Stop pretending that a Trump presidency will be better for Palestine. Literally everyone who actually cares about Palestinians in good faith knows that a vote for Harris is a vote for harm reduction.

      You’re showing your privilege here by admitting you aren’t scared of Trump’s plans, which involves oppressing millions of people, because you’re confident you’re not one of the groups he plans to oppress.

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        A blank check is a blank check. Doesn’t matter if it comes from someone who claims they do it reluctantly, or someone who does it enthusiastically.

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          And if that is the only point worth voting for then so be it, but pretty sure there are vastly different stances on other things that should change your mind.

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            I vote based on their records. Not their promises. Their actual policies are remarkably similar.

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              I’ll take the one whose “record” doesn’t include felony convictions.

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                You have to qualify it with “convictions,” because Harris illegally withheld evidence from defendants in multiple instances, and has openly declared her intent to continue arming the genocide (which is a felony).

                I’m not sure ‘I’m voting for the person who got away with it’ is a strong endorsement.

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                The still living Palestinian children constantly go online to thank people for their vocal support, and the PFLP has asked Americans to boycott the Dems and GOP.

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          Okay, so if your view is that Democrats and Republicans are the same on this issue, then you’re going to need to vote based on something other than this issue.

          So, aside from Gaza which you believe they are equal on, why do you prefer Trump over Harris? Do you support his campaign promises over her’s?

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        Cope lol. Harris has consistently shown her message to be “fuck Palestine”. You call it a harm reduction, yet how are you going to explain the harm already done, and the point of harm reduction? Is Israel going to genocide less-lightly? Kill all the people in Palestine a little bit slower? What’s the difference in the end, there is absolutely none.

        Harris polls this shittily because of Palestine and going against what people want. That’s why suddenly 2 days before the election the messaging changed to “we love Palestine we will end the war really quickly!”.

        The reality is you cannot run a campaign on “but Trump worse!”. You need something that makes you different, you need policy. That’s why Kamala’s CNN Town Hall was such a huge failure - the only thing she talked about is how she isn’t Trump. Acting as if “people are stupid if they don’t vote, vote 3rd party or vote Trump” is a valid statement only shows the blindness of what’s actually happening. And what’s happening is if you only care about Palestine / Middle East, both candidates will happily stand by and letting it burn.

        Remember, this all could stop immediately using one phone call to Netanyahu. We know that, because things like this stopped immediately after such phonecalls. But there needs to be a political will to do that, and there is none right now, or in the future.