Asking for a friend? It’s tough out here. No face shots.

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    If I thought I would actually make money? Sure. But most people that do OF aren’t really making more than pocket change.

    I don’t think most people would be interested in paying for first-person shooting competition video–although maybe they would if I had the $8k or so for a VR camera so that it could be immersive–and most people don’t have a huge interest in rope tops. So, eh.

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    If I was very desperate and my current job no longer sufficed, sure I’d hop on OnlyFans or FeetFinder and give it a go. The problem I have is more one of laziness. I like showing off my body, and spend a good amount of time cultivating parts like my ass and thighs to look attractive. The limiting factor is that I don’t have anyone to hold a camera. It’s a lot of fun to model, it’s a lot less fun to setup a camera/mic, create a scene, and actually take 30-40 pictures/30 sec vid clips. If I had to do it for survival, I could, but I prefer just sending simple thirst traps to fwb.

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    Yes, but I would blame capitalism for forcing me.

    Many years ago I used to stream to a cam site. I walked passed someone who pointed me out to his friend and said he saw me and where online he saw me. It wasn’t a good feeling and while some people may stream for a kink I did it solely for money and that interaction brought about all kinds of feelings. And I still worry now that I will be recognised and even have it publicised. But if I fell on hard times I might do it again while opting to hide my face.

    I wouldn’t recommend it for others, it looms especially if opting to show face.

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    If you don’t enjoy it as a hobby, you won’t enjoy it as a business.

    Do you enjoy taking nudes for fun? Go for it. If not, OF would be the worst “job” you’ve ever had, being just below roaming in train tracks looking for pennies.

    Amazon hires anyone hiring.amazon.com

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      Benefits

      Health benefits, parental leave, paid time off, holiday overtime, employee discounts, and more.

      It’s insane that those things have to be listed in a so-called developed country (except employee discounts, that’s an actual benefit)

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    Selling yourself is not an easy job. If you can, then sure, go for it. But for each person making thousands there are thousands of people making pennies.

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    I have a very liberated sexuality, girls, boys, sometimes among consenting strangers. OF could be a logical extension if I needed money.

    However , two things stand in the way: first, I have a job that gives me social recognition and financial stability, and it wouldn’t be compatible with the social stigma of sex work.

    The other problem is all the work that goes into OF, like on YT channels ot Twitch: communicating on social networks, managing a community, editing, finding collaborations. I don’t know how to do it and I don’t think I’d like it.

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    No and not for the reason you’d expect:

    To open an account, OnlyFans requires you to do social media and prove that your social media accounts are yours, and of course they require you to hand over your real identity with your real ID card or passport and a selfie.

    This is beyond dystopian. You have to be suicidal from a privacy standpoint to do OnlyFans.

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      That’s actually fucking ridiculous. But I guess if you’re willing to put your asshole and face together on the Internet, you’re probably not to concerned about these extra steps.

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      Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.

      Pornhub had to remove all unverified videos (which was most of their videos) and now anyone who uploads must follow similar rules that OnlyFans has. Pornhub posted an announcement saying they reported 118 instances of child abuse materials while Facebook reported 84,000,000 but that somehow they’re the ones being threatened to be shutdown unless they implement more rules.

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        Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.

        Only partially.

        They don’t legally have to require you to do social media. All they’re legally required to do is to verify that you’re a consenting adult. In that respect, I get that they require a form of ID and a photo.

        But the social media stuff is something they pretend to require to add an extra layer of legitimacy to your account, and make extra-sure you’re not a fraud. It’s of course complete bullshit. They only do this to collect data.

        And don’t think for a second you can open an empty Facebook account and tell them “Here’s my social media account”: they want an old account with lots of real activity. And only certain types social media accounts are accepted. In fact, they’re very heavily biased towards you having a Facebook account, and it’s a lot more difficult to validate your OnlyFans account with anything other than a Facebook account.

        They’re in cahoots with Facebook on the social media verification scam. I believe a good portion of their revenue stream is deanonymizing sex workers and selling their data.

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        If I remember correctly the pressure came from credit card companies and not any government.

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      This guy raging that a media/porn publishing company verifies it’s models 🤣

      I mean in the history of porn nobody, and I mean nobody has ever been abused.

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      You’ve probably provided ID at every job you’ve ever had. This is to establish legal residency and that you are of working age. I know OF is not a 9 to 5 job but money is exchanged and I don’t see why this is so dystopian, especially given the extra sensitivity around age.

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        I have no issue with providing ID. I take issue with them requiring me to provide social media credentials. If you don’t do social media - and especially if you don’t do Facebook in particular - no OnlyFans for you.

        Do you find this normal?
        I don’t.

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          Okay you actually spent more words on ID and real identity than socials so that did seem to be an objection.

          Privacy is the concern you cited. If so, why would you be worried about Facebook and not be worried about real ID?

          I’m just trying to understand this clearly - setting aside hyperbole words like dystopian and questions about what I find normal.

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            Well, I’m not a fan of any for-profit asking for my ID. But this is an outfit for sex workers and I’m a reasonable man, so I understand the legal need for them to ask me to provide strong proof of my identity, simply to comply with the law.

            But why should they go any further than what the law requires them to do?

            There are very valid reasons to have a private Facebook and keep it totally separate from your OnlyFans gig. You may have had your Facebook account for years or decades, you interact with your friends and family with it, you know your employer - or your next employer’s headhunter - will check it out. It needs to be squeaky clean and “normal”.

            And on the side, you’re Mistress Jeanne queen of the dominatrix on OnlyFans: you absolutely DON’T want anybody to know you’re Mistress Jeanne for obvious reasons.

            OnlyFans destroys this separation. They know who you are (by law) and they force you to tell them who you present yourself as on Facebook - in case you didn’t use quite the same name, which is very common with trans people for example - and they obviously know who you are and what you do on their platform.

            Why do you think they require you to disclose your social media avatars? To aggregate the information and sell it of course. It’s completely obvious they’re building a database of fully deanonymized sex workers, and that has to be worth a pretty penny on the nauseating data brokers’ market.

            If you don’t care about privacy, you use your real name everywhere or you don’t care that Big Data knows everything about you, including your not-so-savory activities, this is of no concern to you. But most people do stuff they want to keep secret, or hidden, or at least compartmentalized away from their ordinary life and OnlyFan’s requirements are all shades of terrible for that basic right to privacy.

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              Well, I did think of a reason and it’s not for selling your data. This was in the back of my mind but I didn’t know how to put it into words.

              From your perspective, you’re a private individual who wants to display a little ass for coin, all on the up and up. And how dare they ask invasive questions.

              But you do have to remember that ANY community driven site has abuse problems all the time, let alone one where sex workers are plying their trade. So in my mind, they are asking for FB so they can say “keep it real - we know who you are.”

              On the one hand this is dumb and implies a threat. On other hand their site would immediately fly downhill and get shut down if everything there could be done with total anonymity.

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              I agree I can’t think of any good reason to require Facebook account. But it seems pretty easy to just tell them you never had an account before and create a dummy one. That’s probably what a lot of people have to anyway since no one uses FB anymore.

              If it turns you off, I get it. If you want to protect your privacy better, I get that too, though OF doesn’t seem like a vehicle for increasing one’s privacy under any circumstances. The whole “dystopian” thing was a bit much though.

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                But it seems pretty easy to just tell them you never had an account before and create a dummy one.

                That doesn’t work. They don’t accept that. They tell you “Sorry but you need a solid social media presence, with an old account full of actual content.” No social media, no OnlyFans. They literally tell you that when you send them a support email asking why your application was rejected.

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                  I find it hard to believe that all the GenZ ladies there have extensive Facebook accounts.

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      It’s to keep kids off the website and even with all that, there’s already been cases. I think they dont do enough tbh.

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      They need all that to be able to give you your money.
      It’s how you get paid.

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          It’s not like you’re using your personal social accounts for this stuff.
          You’re not going to want your friends and family anywhere near it.

          Only Fans want to know your public social accounts. The ones that are part of your “Brand”, that would drive your “Business”. That’s what matters.
          If you’re worried about privacy on those accounts, you’re doing it all wrong.

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            You have to. Facebook doesn’t allow you to have multiple accounts. If they suspect otherwise (even if they’re wrong), they’ll just delete your account

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          And you don’t need to provide them with it, either. A friend of mine does OF, and has had no such requirement to verify her social media. Unless this is a new requirement that existing members aren’t obligated to go through, or required for a specific feature of the OF platform, then I believe providing them that info is otherwise optional.

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    People underestimate how much work is involved with anything involving selling online content. This isn’t just Only fans.

    But if it’s an hour of work to make $100, why wouldn’t I?

    There are people giving plasma for money.

    There are people jacking off animals for money.

    There are people who spend hours scamming old people for money.

    Time is a investment though. Unfortunately $100 a hour is not the best use of my time. But maybe it is for you and your situation.

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      Curious what you do that 100/hr isn’t a good use of time, because that sounds like something I’d like to learn about.

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        I’m a programmer and I make a pretty decent salary, enough to support my family and weather any emergencies.

        The free time I have, I would do these in this order:

        1. Hang out with my wife and kids
        2. Chill out with recreational things like gaming
        3. Continue to study, read books and take online courses, contribute to open-source and build applications for startups
        4. Convert that free time to $100/hr

        Notice that trying to make MORE money is at the bottom for me.

        And if you ARE money driven, working hourly isn’t how most people became rich. They usually win the lottery by doing a hobby that ended up paying dividends. Like building a app and getting bought out, or collecting Pokemon cards or something.

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          Fair response. I had assumed for many people 100/hr would replace their primary job and thus be worth the trade. If were talking measure time after your primary job, I certainly understand valuing that time even higher than your hourly rate at said job.

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            I did when I was growing up all the way to when I graduated.

            I spent the past 15 years to ensure I never had to do that again.

            But fuck me right?

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              That they sound like someone who has never had to choose between food or rent… You can usually tell by the way there’s a certain kind of innocence in the way they speak about stuff like personal finance. I could be wrong though. Anyways, I think that’s relevant information to disclose when sharing financial insight anonymously online.

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                I have had to make that choice and now that I’m no longer in that situation, I agree with everything he wrote. Now that I’m able to cover my expenses and have some savings, I’m fairly comfortable, and the desire to make more money has faded away. There’s a lot of things I prioritize over more money.

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                  Adding a +1 to this, same situation. For the longest time, I had to keep a running totall in my head, down to the cent, of the few things I put in the supermarket cart to make sure I had money to pay for them.

                  Life has been kind, and gradually things got better and when it sunk in that I was OK was when I realized that at some point I had stopped counting the cents.

                  Nowadays I treasure my time and my wellbeing more than money - I won’t do something that takes away from that, even if pays more.

                  Clearly there’s people who won’t stop at a billion dollars, but for me, the freedom of adding whatever I want to my cart without having to think if I can afford it is all I need to live a happy life.