Will it lead to more conflict or cooperation? If so, how will it develop and culminate?

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    Europe are already shitting their pants because of a couple of thousand migrant, so guess what will happen when it gets into the 100.000s.

    I’m expecting full dystopia.

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      Me too. I’ve been imagining masses of climate refugees being shot at the borders. I don’t want this to happen, but I have no faith in our countries anymore. Once everybody needs to flee the global south, human right won’t matter to the high and mighty anymore. They will make Europe even more of a fortress.

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        It’s not even the high and mighty, they don’t really care who works to build their shit. They are even happy about cheap labour that comes with migration. It’s the average Joe that doesn’t see the problem, projects everything on migration and is unable to think rational.

        Seeing the massive right wing shift in my country (germany) just because the government proposed to shift to 65% renewable home heating in the next 20 years and slightly above average migration numbers that allegedly bring communities close to collapse if you believe the media, I’m losing all hope of anything ever changing to the better. People will never accept any measures that truly address the root of our problems, because they could mean a slight inconvenience for a short moment and limit the freedoms and possibilities that are taken for granted, but are really just a consequence of the technical development in the last decades. Humans where okay with not having a car or fly around the world for thousands of years, but now for some reason it’s life-defining. People are egocentric, dumb and can’t see past their own little world to understand that there are collective problems that only can be solved collectively. I know how condescending that sounds, but I really don’t know how to see all that differently.

        We are absolutely, 100% fucked. I’ve been saying for about 10 years now, that the earliest time for actual change, for collectively deciding what’s right for humanity and the planet, socialism or whatever you want to call it, will come after the next wave of fascism and every day it becomes more obvious that this assessment was correct.

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          Yep, I know. I’m German myself. I meant to say that the high and mighty act like they care about human rights. But when push comes to shove they will stop acting…

          You are right that the people themselves are the bigger problem and I agree that we will probably end up in fascism again. I’ve been thinking a lot about emmigrating if the AfD ever makes it into the government (seeing how CDU und FDP are warming up to the fascists more and more). But there is nowhere to go cause the whole world is turning more and more fascist and autoritarian.

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            Either way, the world is so intertwined that anything that happens on a bigger scale will have an impact on you, no matter where you are.

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              Yeah, you’re right. It is hard to not let all of these horrible prospects of the future drag you down. It’s not like I’m not already anxious enough. 😕