I’m a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he’s a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don’t want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?

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    10 months ago

    I get the sense that your concerns aren’t who your husband watches but what your husband’s opinions are.

    Instead of debating over what Rogan says, maybe just have a conversation with your husband about your concerns. Express your thoughts on issues important to you and see how that goes. Maybe your husband just likes the drama and doesn’t put much weight into Rogan’s hot takes.

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      10 months ago

      The real answer. Everyone is different, can’t really judge a person’s views by who they watch. I know people that watch a lot of Fox because they want to know what kind of crap they’re spreading.

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      10 months ago

      This is good advice! I listened to his podcast for a little while because I was interested in a particular guest and I wanted to hear what the guest had to say, not what Rogan thought. I found a few other guests I liked but I quickly stopped listening because Rogan always makes interviews about his interests and it grew old.

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    10 months ago

    Johnny Harris has a good video: https://youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?si=ckqeiEdfaknWnBeu

    But if you want to debate your husband on what he sees, you’re going to need to get a good idea of the guest. The problem with Joe Rogan is that Rogan does very little pushback as an interviewer.

    There was one interview that I watched with Mel Gibson touting a stem cell cure-all treatment being given out in Panama and making claims about it helping to cure anything. That treatment was beginning to undergo Phase 2 FDA trials, which basically meant they were studying to see if it would kill people, not what benefits the drug had.

    If you are going to debate, ask for a non-Rogan source to back him up. It will at least get your husband to start fact checking. And if your husband asks why you need a second source, you can tell him that Rogan describes himself as an idiot.

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    Use https://piped.video to watch his content. It is a privacy respecting alternative front end for YouTube that will strip out ads and such so you don’t give your support to the content creator if you don’t want to. I use it to keep up with Trump stuff without fully supporting those who choose to host him.

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    I’d just find the comedy special from many years ago where he told his audience that “I’m not an expert in anything except smoking weed. I’m a moron. I don’t know anything. Nobody should listen to me or take me seriously.”

    That bit on stage is the first thing I ever think of whenever his name is mentioned these days, since he didn’t even take his own God damn advice.

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      I’m pretty sure I’ve seen several different clips where he repeats the same “I’m a moron” spiel.

      While I have only watched what few clips came my way, I was under the impression that was the entire point of his podcast: Invite interesting* people, then validating them in discussion by agreeing to most of their takes regardless of how bizarre they are so that they freely speak of their topic.

      *wherein “interesting” is usually something from the categories of fringe beliefs (often conspiracies), drugs, culturally influential people, or experts on whatever is a big topic for his viewership at the time.

      Many of the experts are also those of the fringe belief kind.


      Basically, if you take Rogan’s views significantly more seriously than the beliefs of your local meth head, you are doing it wrong.

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    10 months ago

    Watch it with him and discuss the video afterwards. No matter how many people sit in front of a screen, it counts as one view.

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      10 months ago

      This. Watching them yourself is really the only way to go. Anyone else you watch to get info on him is highly likely to be either biased towards or against him and will be giving you incorrect information.

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    I think you need to take a few steps back and really think about what you are asking. If your husband is a fan and regular listener to a source you are so adamant against, that even giving him a view is a concern, then do you and your husband have the same values?

    I am so sorry to say this but your post is just littered with red flags. Sis, he isn’t hard to argue with, the man just doesn’t care what you think. If he did why isn’t this a discussion and not an argument where he shuts you/your concerns down? I would say that making yourself informed about the specifics of Joe Rogan matters more than his view count going up by 1. But frankly, you probably aren’t going to like anything you hear (Because Rogan is a pig who washes conspiracies/bigotry as “just debate lol”). But since your husband knows you won’t approve, that is why he is brushing you off.

    This sounds like a really rough position to be in. I’ve been there with some of my past relationships so I am sending you all the warmth and strength I can muster! Big hugs!

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    You can ask him to explain the episodes to you. It might help him reflect on the information and give you something to talk about.

    If he’s difficult to “debate” it might be that the format of your conversations are to blame. Sometimes arguing, especially by throwing “facts” and trying to prove someone that their views are wrong, just creates tension and pushback causing the opposite effect. There’s something called Street Epistemology that can help open the door to actual conversations and reflection, instead of antagonistic debating.

    https://streetepistemology.com/

    If that fails, there’s also the option for couples therapy if you feel like you’re not communicating.

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    10 months ago

    You can also read into some of the very easily disprovable professional morons that appear on show. Jordan Peterson is a great example because he’s obviously wrong in a very well researched area.

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      When it comes to psychology, I think Peterson has a lot of valuable insights.

      When it comes to anything else I just wish he would shut his mouth.

      That combination of feelings really sums up a lot of Joe’s guests.

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    Don’t kid yourself, you “giving” him a few views isn’t gonna make any difference, taking a principled stance on it is like peeing in the ocean.

    Just watch a few of his videos or listen to some of his podcasts, instead of letting other people give your their viewpoint on him just get your own viewpoint, do it without any bias either… pick an episode that you are interested in pick something you don’t agree with and pick something that could go either way. You might agree with some stuff and not other things but at least you determined that for yourself

    I used to listen to his podcast but lost interest plus I’d only listen to the stuff I had any interest in, science and technology stuff. He had some odd views/stuff I didn’t agree with but that’s living in reality you aren’t always gonna agree with people.

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    10 months ago

    Well at least nobody suggested divorce yet!

    Either way… I am more concerned about how OP thinks she has some sort of right to dictate her husband’s podcast viewing BC she doesn’t approve of podcast BC teevee told her Rogan is “bad”

    This is some fucking degeneracy, I wonder her husband would react to being treated like that

    This is not how a partner behaves, you got a lot it to learn OP

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      10 months ago

      At what point have I dictated his viewing? I’m guessing you’re not in a relationship, because it’s clear you are actually the one with a lot to learn.