https://www.gov.il/he/Departments/DynamicCollectors/is-db?skip=0

Can check their charges here

I just see the mod log entries and “post_not_found” errors in my comment history. But it’s against the rules to be more specific.

Sometimes it seems like a legitimate site error because I can see the comments in the web UI but not the app api.

According to earlier UN or NGO reports I saw they were bussing them into the desert and just leaving them there. The Pakistani government has also set up 2 “deportation centers” near the border.

So an Armenian genocide style thing?

One person who got dropped off with his family like this at least made it to Kabul, where he is in hiding. A lot of the refugees are (related to) American collaborators so expect they will be executed if they just like show up and act like they never left.

It’s just tiring at this point. Even if you have lived there, aren’t a zionist, family been there for 500+ years, and try to cut through all the bullshit to explain the context no one cares. It’s just politically extremist tribalism which is exactly what caused the issue we are discussing.

There’s also a lot of censorship going on and it’s a bit sick since the posts and comments I’ve seen censored often include Palestinians talking about the situation. largely ones from Hamas, some who left. It doesn’t fit whatever whoever is doing the removing wants on the front page I guess.

There’s another run with Al-Arabiya, Saudi iirc, where the interviewer grills the Hamas rep for doing a shit ton to hurt the cause of the Palestinian people.

People think Hamas takes interviews with western independent journalists? Maybe their propaganda arm which knows how to play down their crimes and keep the narrative going. These guys are the real ones.

They do it because they are providing aid too.

The cynical reason is they are confirming targets eliminated.

The IDF didn’t need to fix the cell network, or the water pipes. The former directly hurts them.

Actually Israel has a shit ton of bulldozers and combat engineers clearing rubble over the weekend. There’s a lot of video.

It’s also fixed the pipes and cell network and is flooding more aid than the rest of the world combined into the war zone including fuel. Under guard.

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Unfortunately the school textbooks teach and encourage it. It’s at the demands of the existing zealots with guns, but it’s a problem that only gets worse.

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Take it or leave it.

Ones the shortest path to a good life for the kids. Being stubborn and martyring for the cause is what everyone there is taught is right at the schools. Including the UN run ones.

And you seemed to have missed the citizenship and relocation to a safe place with protection. The only threat to them at that point is the violent thugs that run their government and the people who think collective punishment is OK who want revenge.

Germans went through this too BTW.

Palestinians in Gaza have been offered citizenship, relocation for their families, and a financial reward to snitch on Hamas.

Hamas is very popular unfortunately. Still hundreds, maybe thousands now, of collaborators including the family of its leadership.

Oh yea also your numerical comparison is more like 1/50 are Hamas fighters or directly involved. We (as in everyone native to the region) have big families with lots of kids which is why the population demographics look like they do. My grandma was 1 of 12 siblings. The guy I linked is 1 of 9. But as the guy I linked said the kids are taught and expected that being a militant fighter is a noble goal so a few young men in each family end up becoming fighters with family support.

Plenty of Hamas in the west bank including one of their leaders I know of. They are more popular than Fatah in a lot of places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef this guy’s father. Him and his brother are speaking out against Hamas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvsrybklf8 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4Im6KPs7O/

69ish% of modern Israeli jews are natives to the region. The group labeled “zionists” or “colonizers” describes about 30%.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world about as many or more than the Nakbah got expelled.

The Hamas rep elaborated previously that like 50+ hostages were held by other groups and in some cases just some people that did a kidnapping.

It’s public record but it doesn’t take much effort to obfuscate it’s happening. That’s why reddit fuzzed votes in the first place.

Chatgpt makes it really easy for the people inclined to write scripts to post comments and repost articles and spin up dozens or hundreds of accounts.

Captchas help but someone committed can throw $100 in and get many many accounts if they don’t want to do it themselves. IPv6 addresses to proxy the bots through are easy to get by the thousand too.

You also don’t use brand new accounts you roll them over the course of a few weeks or months.

The other commenter got to it already.

Because there’s a bunch of tribes including the majority of modern Israeli jews who are native to the Middle East for centuries.

Arabs and Hebrewd are both Semitic (as in native to the area) and both groups look the same. There’s like half a dozen sub groups plus others that are welcome in Israel and are full citizens and aren’t jews.

It’s a sectarian conflict. Foreigners injecting racist whiteness into it is ignorant of the situation actually in the region.

None of the people pushing the aparteid ethnostate angle are from the area…the settler shit is bad but like a lot of Israelis agree they are bad and should go. Cops are Bastards.

Explain it’s a sectarian thing based as much on politics (who won a civil war our grandparents generation fought) at this point and they just don’t care.

Like there’s been very public attempts to remove the far right government members. No one remembers the entire country including the air force striking when Bibi tried to fuck with the judiciary prosecuting his crimes earlier this year. The president (its usually mostly ceremonial) is the leader of the Socialist Labor party.

Bibi is at historic low popularity, 8-9/10 Israelis (including the large Arab citizen Pop) want him gone.

Gaza is fucked now because the Palestinian nationalist movement went wild and militant after Yaser Arafat died. Dude was also massively corrupt and hurt his people for his own personal enrichment.

(also every time someone pops off about Zionism and the Ashkenazi tribe immigrating to the region in the 1800s I have to consider whether to tell them like 69% of jews in Israel literally aren’t European zionists under their own definition. Around 900k native to region for centuries jews moved to Israel shortly after it came into existence when they got expelled from the surrounding countries in a nationalistic fervor that spurred a ton of extremely bad shit.)