CAD is obviously something that got much better with better computers, but apart from such heavily PC focussed jobs, I’m not sure this holds true.

Digital systems waste a ton of worker’s time as well, and we now have much, much more bureocracy than before.

In many cases, computers are great at helping you fix problems and accomplish tasks you didn’t have without computers.

It certainly doesn’t have the weird and hard-to-understand web of random rules that r/showerthoughts has.

Germany used to be a collection of tribes and depending on which of these tribes the countries around them had contact with that’s the name that stuck in that language.

• Germans call themselves Deutsche (from diutisc meaning “the people” in Old German)
• In French they are called Allemagne after the Alamanni tribe
• In Italian it’s Germania, same as the English Germany, from the ancient latin Germania with unknown origins
• In Finnish it’s Saksa, after the Saxon tribes
• Most slavic countries use some variant of Niemcy, which means “speechless”, because slavic and germanic languages have hardly anything in common and are thus unintelligible to each other.

It happens everywhere.

Current structures favour moving to cities. Farming and mining (which are the biggest job sectors that require people living in rural areas) are getting more and more automated, which means that there are fewer and fewer jobs in these fields. At the same time, huge, automated businesses win financially against smaller businesses operated with manual labour, so the small farmers are dieing off as well.

Manual jobs are often seasonal (e.g. picking fruit), and they are filled with seasonal foreign workers who don’t live in the rural areas either.

WIth fewer people living in rural areas other jobs (e.g. factories) also move to the cities, further removing rural jobs.

All of that push more people to move to cities and so on.

The impending demographic change accelerates that trend too.

This. In the golden age of record sales (pretty much the time before tape recoders became a thing), there were also thousands of musicians for each one that could actually live off their art.

Since people love making art even when they don’t make money off it, there’s always been an oversupply of artists.

Same with all other kinds of entertainment. For each football superstar there’s millions of kids who will never earn a cent for playing football. Same with painters, musicians and any other form of art.

Is Mozart’s music culture?

He was doing his stuff almost 100% for profit and was seen as a sell-out by a lot of the musicians at his time. He wrote his songs in German instead of Latin because he wanted to make essentially pop songs that were sung by kids on the street, and the musical establishment derided him for it, because they didn’t think what he was making was actually art.

This is very much it. If there’s people doing it for free, that pushes the resale value down a lot.

Chemotherapy is bad for the person receiving chemo, it’s just even worse for the cancer. Yes, it cures people, but nobody in their right mind would use chemo on a healty person and claim that it wasn’t bad for that person.

If you have ever seen someone going through chemo, it’s really rough on them, and it’s only done in the hope of getting rid of the cancer and being able to stop using chemo.

But the analogy doesn’t make sense for the discussion on hand, because what propaganda bots do is polarizing, creating distrust, dividing society and cause people to do stupid things due to being angry.

Propaganda bots do that by posting extreme statements on all sides of the political spectrum. They post both pro-russia and anti-russia stuff, pro-capitalism and anti-capitalism, pro-trans and anti-trans, and so on.

So making bots to post anti-russia stuff is doing half their work.

An anti-russia bot would not be chemotherapy, it would be injecting cancer cells into the patient.

Maybe one could make a bot that posts moderate views and content advocating for reconcilliation or something like that.

Patriotism is nationalism for people who say “I’m not a racist, but”.

Wait for a few more years and you’ll see what patriots do to a country once they have taken over everything and been in power for a few years.

I am from Austria. I know what patriots do.

Patriots are the same shit as real nazis, only they are too cowardly to admit it and they “didn’t know what really happened” until the charade finally collapses.

Over here we have another term for patriots: Mitläufer.

Check out the difference between the group of blue vs yellow: <$50k has 4% more people who think US is the best vs people who think that other countries are better.

$100k has 1% more people who think that the US is the best place vs the opposite.

That means, in total, the group of <$50k is more pro-US-superiority than the group of $100k.

That is data from the chart, nothing else.

pointed out to you that simply using extrapolation, there is a trend

Where is there a trend? There is no trend of the pro US side, there is a trend on the anti US side. And that trend on the anti US side is the opposite of what you are saying.

Three data points is by far too little to extrapolate anything at all.

That was not the original premise of your statement and the graph doesn’t say anything about that at all. Answering the new question using the data in the graph is pure conjecture.

For reference, here’s what you said in your last comments:

But mostly rich, old, conservative republican men. As expected.

and

but how about you take a look at the data presented in the graph and tell me which group in each category is the most delusional?

What you are doing here is a motte-and-bailey argument. You first post your provocative, sexy statement (“rich, old, conservative” and "it’s ), but when met with pushback, you switched to an easier-to-defend argument, without acknowledging that you switched your argument. The goal of this is that hopefully your discussion partners don’t realize, and now they have to argue against something that’s much harder to argue about.

If you can read German, the Wiki page summarizes everything quite well: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_und_positive_Freiheit

If not, maybe an autotranslation might be good enough.

That’s because there’s two kinds of freedom: negative and positive freedom.

Negative freedom is the “freedom from”. It’s the “I can do what I want and face no consequences, nobody tells me what to do” type of freedom. A man starving alone in the desert has perfect negative freedom. Nobody tells him where to die.

Positive freedom is the “freedom to”. It’s the “Thanks to society and corporation I can do things that would have been impossible to kings just 150 years ago” type of freedom.

These two types of freedom often contradict and often to increase positive freedoms, negatice freedoms need to be sacrificed.

The highway code is a good example of that. Thanks to the highway system, you can drive whenever, whereever you want to, at speeds that were straight-up impossible 150 years ago. No king of that era could travel as fast and without relying on anyone else as an ordinary citizen can today.

The only reason we can do so though is because there’s a huge list of laws that govern in detail what you cannot do on the road. I can safely travel down the highway at high speed because I am not allowed to do so on the wrong side of the road.

Now remember which type of freedom right-wing politicians invoke over and over again and which one they want to sacrifice for it.

There’s hardly a difference in income. <$50k is argueably more infatuated with the US than >$100k.

That’s pure projection. I don’t love my country and it would be stupid to have romantic feelings toward a made-up thing that doesn’t exist.

I live here because it’s a good place to live. If the country goes to shit, I move on.

Do you feel patriotic love towards the supermarket you shop at? Or do you go there because it’s currently the place where you get the best deal? Do you love your petrol station? Do you love the highway or train you use to get to work?

Maybe it’s the american weirdness that you guys don’t value love so that you mistake thinking that somethig is ok is automatically deep love or something weird.

Patriotism has exactly on purpose: to keep idiots in line and stop them from thinking.

Tbh, I have to disagree here.

Even in its best form, patriotism is about being proud of things you did nothing to contribute to and about tribalism and exclusion of others (namely people from places where you don’t live).

In my city we have great public transport, great public healthcare, strong worker protection laws, a large public housing sector that keeps rents low, good free education, pretty old buildings, lots of nice parks and many other great things that I like.

I did nothing to contribute to these things except of voting every few years. It’s not my achievement that these things exist, so pride would be misplaced.

I also know that all it takes for these things to vanish is the wrong people getting elected once or twice, and if that were to happen, the city could quickly be turned from a great place to live to a terrible place. It has happened before, specifically between 1933 and 1945, but also from 1809 to 1848 and 1914 to 1923.

Being patriotic would elevating my city and/or country to something more than it is: from a place to live to a place to worship or something like that, and it would mean I would have to support things that cannot be reasonably supported.

It’s totally ok to like the good things you have. It’s also totally ok to get behind good causes and further them. But it’s weird to “love” a place and bind yourself to it even if it goes bad.

Mandatory minimum sentences exist outside of the US as well, and they are usually not a great idea.

For example, in Germany they introduced mandatory minimum sentences for possession and distribution of child pornography. Politicians were warned that it will have unintended side-effects, but the warnings weren’t heeded.

A bit later a (female) teacher noticed that kids in her class were passing around a sex video of one of her underage students and her ex boyfriend, that the ex leaked as revenge. She had one of the students send her a copy of the video as evidence, took that to the mother of the girl, handed it to her, so that the mother of the girl could go to the police with it.

In the process of the whole investigation, it was noticed that the teacher had that copy in her possession for a short time and passed it on to the mother, thus distributing child pornography. The judge was very apologetic and said the ruling was unfair and a shame, but his hands were tied, the law demanded without any possible leeway from him that she would have to spend time in prison, without chance for early release. She was also registered in the sex offender registry and barred from working as a teacher in the future. All for trying to help that girl.

For the German speakers under us: Wayne interessierts…

(As an explanation: Wayne sounds very close to the German “wen”, meaning roughly “who”. So that’s a common joke phrase in German and means “Who cares?”)

The home secretary in my country said during Covid that everyone will have to be more financially conservative during Covid-related lock-downs. She said that then three ball gowns are enough, you don’t need more than that.

Yeah, that company specifically developed a space-capable pen as a marketing gig and then offered it to NASA who paid less for them than they did for the pens they would have gotten instead.