• qnick@lemmy.world
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    gen·o·cide /ˈjenəˌsīd/ noun the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

    From what I understand, the actions of Hamas are clearly fell under this definition. Their goal is to kill all Jews. I don’t see how actions of IDF could be classified as genocide, since their declared goal is to kill the Hamas leaders, and not some nation or ethnic group.

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        The thousands of children weren’t the aim. We can argue about was it a war crime or not, probably was. But it cannot be a genocide.

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          I don’t really care what you want to call it, it’s mass murder. If they cared about keeping civilian casualties to a minimum, the death toll wouldn’t be this horrendous.

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            I agree with you on that. From the personal perspective it doesn’t matter how you call it. However most of the officials do care about the definitions, and when you write to your representative you might want to have it in mind.

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      It’s not only about textual definition, think of the moral side of this conflict and try to justify killing 50 innocents for one alleged military target and how many more civilians need to die?

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        Israel really have two options at this point: either Palestinian dead kids, or Israeli dead kids. Nobody proposed a third option so far.

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      With respect, what on Earth are you on about?

      Palestine hasn't existed on Israeli maps for a while . They said "There's no such thing as a Palestinian people", and ultimately it's clear that Israel is trying to eradicate all Palestinians into Egypt and neighbouring countries.

      Israel’s ismm actions are GENOCIDE, plain and simple. They do not recognise Palestine. The dehumanising language being used is textbook, in removing their humanity. They want all of the land to become Israel and they want all Palestinians out. Settlers on the west bank are clearing neighborhoods of people completely unrelated to the Hamas attack, with support from the Israeli police.

      Was the Hamas attack genocide? They definitely intended as such; and killed over a thousand people indiscriminately with the aim of causing as much damage as possible.

      But you cannot look at Israel’s actions and say what they’re doing isn’t genocide. That “this is war” is no excuse for the sheer scale of war crimes being committed.

      In 2018 innocent, peaceful protesters were being killed for sport, many of them children.. I have no confidence that the very same murderers, guiding rockets and now participating in the ground offence are any different and will have any sympathy for the Palestinians, whether it’s an elderly woman or child.