Out of curiosity I went to exploding-heads.com and it looks like it’s not working anymore. Is there a new place they hang out now? Are they undercover on the regular servers or something? It’d be a little surprising to me if they all just gave up on being active on the Fediverse.
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I’m guessing they left after bring blocked by most instances. After that you may as well just go to another conservative forum.
Yep
They don’t want their own instance, they want to troll everyone else.
So when that instance got defederated, they either just got a new domain using the same infrastructure or their users made accounts on less regulated but still federated instances.
I’d be really surprised if any of them only had one account to begin with.
They don’t want their own instance, they want to troll everyone else.
I think there is a strong analogy to be made vis-à-vis spending your energy on regulating other people’s sex lives or abortion rights or ability to come into the country or not, versus just living your own life and making it rewarding.
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My favorite theory is that they realized their similarity to hexbears and tankies and joined that chapter of ‘people who can’t handle living in a mixed society’.
And somehow both of them push propaganda aligned with the Kremlin…
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ootl why this is funny?
Is it funny? I thought it was mostly sad.
oh I thought this was meant to make fun of them and I didnt know enough about them to figure out why
Not even being slightly funny about it, that’s my genuine perception on the whole mess.
There is an aire of irony, though.
‘people who can’t handle living in a mixed society’
That’s … both sides, all sides, isn’t it? Specifically for exploding-heads, there were numerous and loud calls on multiple instances to defederate from them.
Are you for real? You do realize that “mixed society” is referring to actual real life, right?
That wasn’t clear to me. I thought this was about siloed lemmy instances, hence I talked about that.
I don’t see how their comment makes sense from your perspective. Can you explain? According to that theory, where did the exploding-heads people go, joining the people who can’t handle living in a mixed society in real life? Do you mean they stopped using the internet or how does that help to explain the observation?
I read it as saying that, despite having ideals on two opposite ends of the spectrum, they’ve found “common ground” of sorts, in a community full of people who can’t handle living in irl “mixed society.”
In other words, they’re the only people willing to put up with similar behavior to their own I guess? This is all speculation, I haven’t seen what those instances look like these days and don’t really have any interest.
That wasn’t clear to me.
You can always check context before typing, just saying.
isn’t it?
Nope.
The interesting part is not your personal opinion but the reasoning behind it.
I have reasons for my position and layed them out. You disagree, and showed that much. I still have my reasons and can’t know yours, so your comment did not change anyones mind or advance the conversation in any way.
I miss the tankies. I assume they’re still around somewhere, but now they’re all drowned out by the “look what I found on Twitter” bros. I didn’t agree with them, but for a while, Lemmy felt like the old internet.
Lmao they got defederated en masse because (drum roll) they were all abrasive pricks. Same with these maga chuds.
I’ve argued with both tankies and MAGA people, and the tankies were way more abrasive. Like bad-faith to a degree that’s genuinely hard to believe. I still loved them.
Two sides of the same shit-coin imho
Just go to a different instance there’s a shit ton of em lol
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Haha excellent. I was completely sincere when I was telling that other guy that Lemmy feels like a monoculture now, and I liked the “tankie vs leftie vs nerd” generation of it way better. When I first came on and it was ideologically diverse I was like “holy shit, score, I’m staying here forever.” Like I say, it felt like the old internet.
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Link??
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Haha sure, DM me.
Careful, this guy fucks a LOT of black and Spanish girls. Idk why that’s relevant but knowledge should be shared.
Yeah. So, I misunderstood a little bit.
I have friends IRL who are hard-core into the MAGA propaganda, to the point that they talk to each other online and offline about gearing up for war if the Democrats keep it up. I want to know more about that because it’s relevant and dangerous. It seems important to have a good awareness of what’s up with it in detail. And, in all sincerity, talking with those friends did make me sympathize with them for how the modern online world wants to make them pariahs. I had absolutely no sympathy at the beginning, but at a certain point I “got it” and understood how it feels on their end. I see them more as victims of an incredibly powerful propaganda system than anything else, and I don’t think being antagonistic to them “back,” even though yes they are being hateful, is in any way productive. And yes, that includes interfering with their freedom to be able to say what it is that they sincerely think (“free speech”), in some cases.
I was hearing Art Bell and Adbusters and “Off the Hook” (if anyone knows that show) before some of these people were born, so I can have a good amount of sympathy for someone who wants to be anti-establishment, and genuinely feel like I can rock with them depending on where they’re coming from, even if politically I think they’re dead wrong. We can talk about it. Free speech, right?
So, I was curious about this. I did go to the exploding-heads replacement and look at it. Honestly? The issue isn’t anything political; the issue is that they just want to be assholes. A good example is the guy who told me “You are a nobody” “You have no brain in your head” “s***” “f******” “dumb f****** b*******” and so on. It’s just vitriol without much of any kind of political subject matter. I can understand why they got defederated so unanimously. No one even pretended to take me up on my offer, hey send me your censored truth over a DM and let’s talk. There’s no politics beyond a vague “fuck Biden” vibe, just shared bitterness that drove everyone else away from even wanting to talk to them. IDK, I’m not into that. I hope they get out of whatever mental trouble leads them to act that way, but it’s not my problem and not something I’m interested in.
TL;DR they’re not political, they’re just dicks.
Nobody wants you here.
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Above you can see ‘Exhibit a’ in my case that hexbears, magas and incels can’t handle free will.
Notice the mention of a “mixed society” immediately forces them to analyze skin pigmentation and make wild claims in an attempt to regain normality.
It would be funny if it wasn’t so damn sad.
Stay triggered by the world’s opinion of your existence 🤙🤙
Woof bro, there’s still time to delete this cringey shit
They migrated elsewhere to another platform months ago. I can’t even remember which one.
Nostr
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Ah, the Grand Wizard himself! With such a stable group of geniuses, you’d think you wouldn’t have such a hard time finding a place to crash to burn crosses, or jerk each other off, or whatever it is you do in your safe space echo chambers.
(it sucked because you and your ilk were there)
So where you guys at? Missed me?
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I’ve seen a couple active on Lemmy.world lately, but nothing out of the ordinary. They’ll be back though, one way or the other. We have to be aware of that.
Eli5 exploding-heads?
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Literally who
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Huh. Never heard of him
Who?
Wigglehard was an admin for sure
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WIGGLES? wave
Hello! Funny that you still wiggle. Have you always been so emotional?
Anyways, my actual question for clarification is: What does ‘cz’ mean?
You sound immature, like a teenager. I’m glad your instance is gone.
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Ever tried…idk…growing up?
Hi Sandra! Remember when you banned 5 accounts of mine on your free speech instance? It was “free speech” as long as it didn’t go against the conservative talking points.
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🤣 your incel energy is over 9000
They went to nostr or other parts of the fediverse because the lemmyverse is toxic and they were constantly facing attacks of various types. Same thing that happened to wolfballs before it.
Some of the users might lurk on other servers, but I have my doubts. The point was to have a place they could be free to talk about things the establishment were censoring. Most of the colonizers from Reddit don’t realize those servers existed long before most of what are considered the big Lemmy servers today even existed.
If the goal was just to troll redditors, there’s always reddit.
Beind told you’re wrong and to stop spreading harmful misinformation isn’t censorship.
Being disagreed with isn’t being attacked.
A privately owned and operated forum banning you and deleting your posts for breaking their rules isn’t “the establishment” censoring you.
Censorship is the institution, system, or practice of censoring. To censor is to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable.
The Establishment is the part of a particular group that has power or control.
If the most powerful government on earth contacts the largest and most powerful companies on earth in order to categorically suppress or delete certain viewpoints or certain speakers, then by definition that is “‘the establishment’ censoring you”. The fact that you agree with the censorship doesn’t make it not censorship, and framing it in a moralistic way doesn’t make it not censorship. Being moralistic didn’t make it not censorship when the right was doing it.
Exploding-heads as I understand it was facing DDOS attacks near the end (or at least they thought it was), that’s one of the things that prompted the admin to shut it down, it wasn’t worth the effort to try to keep the site up and running under such an onslaught.
Anyway, I don’t know why I’d even try. You know what? You win. Everything is fine and censorship doesn’t exist and the only truth is that which the government and major corporations tell you, and the government and major corporations are actually the anti-establishment fighting against the big bad individuals who believe things they’re not supposed to.
This isn’t the government or big corporations. This is Lemmy. A bunch of independently ran servers from random people, most of them doing it strictly for the fun of it.
What you are complaining about is the same as going to someone else’s house, shitting directly on the kitchen counter and then complaining that you’ve been asked to leave and never return.
All this talk about being censored and you are still fucking talking. Where is the censorship?
So much censorship, how do you survive?
Everything is fine and censorship doesn’t exist and the only truth is that which the government and major corporations tell you, and the government and major corporations are actually the anti-establishment fighting against the big bad individuals who believe things they’re not supposed to.
A sarcastic straw man attack is hardly persuasive. Most of the people you’re here fighting with probably agree censorship is a problem… we’re talking in the fediverse, it’s a self-selecting group that cares about that kind of thing.
FWIW I agree there’s some toxic political extremism in the Lemmyverse from the far left. I’ve almost left because of it. Conflating that with government censorship seems disingenuous. Maybe I’m just not understanding your point.
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Man, the other day my phone didn’t have internet and popped up and old copy of my lotide. It was a painful reminder of how much more fun it used to be on the threadiverse. Sad that all the fun instances shut down and we end up trapped here with a bunch of boring redditors.
