Rules:
*You can teleport into and out of it at will
*It has a couple of plug sockets and can connect to internet from the region you teleported in from
*You can take objects and people with you
*As already stated, it is (3m)^3 (3m*3m*3m). The walls are plain plaster with a light in the middle of the ceiling. The pocket dimension is topologically toroidal, so if there weren’t walls and a ceiling/floor (which you can actually destroy) you would loop if you went more than 3m in any direction. Gravity, then, is artificial and can be altered to anywhere from 0 to 2g from a dial on the wall.
Edit: additional specifications
*You can only teleport out to where you teleported in from.
*Time proceeds at the same rate inside the pocket dimension
*There is an eject button for those inside to get out if something happens to you
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I think I’d probably pack a bed, TV, microwave, and mini fridge into it and go travel and see a bunch of the world without worrying about lodging. I could also use it at work to eliminate my commute and save myself the high rent of living in Northern Virginia lol.
My feeble American brain can’t comphrened the concept of safe, free, private housing.
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Same! I would also cram a small server and ton of tools into it so i would have a portable hackerspace.
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This isn’t allowed according to OP. To paraphrase “you can teleport back to where you teleported in”Edit: this is incorrect. I misunderstood.
Don’t see how his use would violate that?
Think of it like a portable hotel room with no bathroom. You can travel wherever while outside the room and when it’s time to turn in you just use the room.
He’s also saying that he would not need to commute as in his home is close to work without having to worry about the high rent in the area where his work is.
Ah that makes sense now. Appreciate you adding the much needed clarity for me.
Think thats what they meant. Just use it as there home. At work then teleport to there space then back to work. When traveling the normal way just use it for sleeping. Basicly taking your home with you.
Ah that makes sense now. Appreciate you adding the much needed clarity for me.
you could just bring a sleeping bag and a ground mat…
Why do that when my bed is so much more comfortable?
And you can masturbate without annoying the coworkers who never seem to leave their workplace.
in order to:
see a bunch of the world without worrying about lodging
A) it’s not always safe to sleep outside when travelling
B) it’s not always legal to sleep where you are
So by taking your own bed in the pocket dimension, you’ll always have a safe, comfortable and legal place to stay without any cost
i’ve done it quite a bit…
Good for you. I have too… That doesn’t mean it’s safe or legal everywhere and doesn’t give any reason why turning it into a portable bedroom is a bad idea
i did not say that was a bad idea
Magical room with free power and Internet… I’m making it into a server room!
Wonder how it handles heat
You would be pumping your server heat into mass of water and just swapping it from time to time with cold water from lake/sea/river/whatever.
I’ll tell you what’d I’d do, man. Two chicks at the same time
That’s it? If you had a pocket dimension, you’d do two chicks at the same time?
I think they were looking for, “you think you need a pocket dimension for that?”
The kinda chicks who would double up on a guy like me would.
Fuckin’ A
Paint the inside beige and rent it out for $2000/month
Don’t forget to paint over the electrical outlets, the thermostat and door hinges for that true landlord special aesthetic.
Honestly undervalued.
Has internet, and can teleport into and out of at will? Could charge at least $3000/mo
Man, the places I could hike without having to carry a pack! Wouldn’t need to plan for resupply or anything. Would have communication access from anywhere in the world.
You could use it as a kickass home gym where you can dial up or down gravity depending on what you’re doing.
Smuggling would be a whole lot easier if you went that route. Transporting all sorts of things really; you only need to get yourself to the new location.
Could do some very amazing magic tricks since you can disappear (and swap props or outfits or whatever).
With gravity turned down you could presumably build up some momentum and launch yourself places. Not sure how you’d stick the landing unless you can control which way is “up” as you teleport to the room.
Edit: Just realised this idea is kinda similar to an ability from HunterxHunter
Knov’s nen ability was such a cool idea. Using it as a killing floor for Netero to pick off the chimera one by one was brutal.
I’m surprised they didn’t plan to use it to trap Meruem somehow. Netero could have slapped Meruem into one of the portals.
break top
break bottom
insert shit ton of rocks
set gravity to 2g for faster gravitational acceleration
I have acquired rocks that can keep falling and build up velocity forever.
live life as usual; when I’m old enough to near death, aim for anywhere within the planet with said rocks.
Assuming I fill the 3x3x3 box half to half with sandstone and air; its weight will be 33kg.
If I live for 70 years more, assuming the gravitational acceleration is 19.72 m/s^2; I can generate stones that can go up to 156.8 billion km/s (or 145 times the speed of light)
Using the kinetic energy formula; I’m pretty sure unleashing this anywhere will be enough to destroy a huge chunk of the existing universe and in the end I’ll be the person to go out of the world with the biggest bang.
Well, specifics about the big bang is not known; but I’ll be its closest contender if it is correct.
They wouldn’t go faster than terminal velocity if you keep air in the chamber, and even if you remove it, they won’t go faster than c. They’ll still go pretty fast, though.
I don’t think the drag force due to air would work the same in a system with such a high concentration of rocks. It’s not like one object falling through undisturbed fluid, which then has to get out of the way, in this case the air would gradually start to move along with the rocks.
This might be better modelled as turbulent flow of a mixed solid/air suspension. But there’s no ‘edges’ to the flow due to the looped dimension, so the viscous forces are pretty uniform… There would still be a terminal velocity, but much much higher than a rock falling through an atmosphere
Also I imagine the rocks would quickly grind themselves to very fine dust, once they pick up a bit of kinetic energy, so then it would behave more like a fluid with uniform density… Could it even end up as laminar flow?
i don’t think they would grind themselves to dust, as they’re all moving in the same direction therefore their reaktive Velocity compared to each other would be (near) 0, not giving them much energy
It’s a really interesting question, I would love it if someone who understands this kind of physics properly would chime in!
By my understanding of Reynolds number etc, the faster they go, the more turbulent the flow, so the rocks would be constantly hitting against each other sideways, and surely grind to dust in the constantly accelerating scenario.
But maybe the infinite (looped) nature of this ‘dimension’ means that this logic doesn’t apply. What would even be the ‘characteristic length’? Are we thinking about established flow at the centre of an infinitely wide pipe? Am I wrong to think of constantly accelerating rocks with air in between as a type of fluid flow?
No I think you’re right about the fluid dynamics aspect, as we do have an indefinitely long pipe, but in the prompt the walls do still exist, so they’ll probably do create some friction. The question is, would the rocks build up some sort of boundary layer of slower flowing particles near the wall, and how much do the boundary layer and “main” center flow mix?
Thinking about it, it isn’t even an indefinitely long pipe really, as there are no “new” sections of wall coming up, instead it’s constantly passing the same section of wall, and same section of boundary layer…
If someone knows how to simulate this in a physics engine or virtual air tunnel I’d be really interested in that!
I guess I was imagining it with the walls torn out as well, but you’re right the op (of this comment chain) said top and bottom broken. If the walls are somehow firmly fixed forever no matter how much force they experience, and are not subject to thermal degradation, then we have a square pipe with 3m sides and infinite length. If the walls break down then it’s also infinite diameter.
In terms of modelling it there’s a FOSS option openfoam.org but I don’t know how to use it and don’t have time to mess about with it right now.
Any energy lost to air friction would be transferred into the air. In a closed looped system with constant acceleration a single falling brick would eventually stir the air up into a light-speed wind.
Keeping the air was a mistake but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to go faster than c.
According to special relativity, the energy of an object with rest mass m and speed v is given by γmc2, where γ is the Lorentz factor defined above^1. […] The γ factor approaches infinity as v approaches c, and it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate an object with mass to the speed of light. The speed of light is the upper limit for the speeds of objects with positive rest mass[…] This is experimentally established in many tests of relativistic energy and momentum.
More generally, it is impossible for signals or energy to travel faster than c. One argument for this follows from the counter-intuitive implication of special relativity known as the relativity of simultaneity. If the spatial distance between two events A and B is greater than the time interval between them multiplied by c then there are frames of reference in which A precedes B, others in which B precedes A, and others in which they are simultaneous. As a result, if something were travelling faster than c relative to an inertial frame of reference, it would be travelling backwards in time relative to another frame, and causality would be violated. In such a frame of reference, an “effect” could be observed before its “cause”. Such a violation of causality has never been recorded, and would lead to paradoxes such as the tachyonic antitelephone.
1 γ = (1 − v2/c2)−1/2
Hmmmmmmmm, now, how much energy does the box have to generate that constant 2g of acceleration? In this hypothetical the box appears to have an infinite amount of energy to generate that force though…
Yes it seems to have infinite energy but the throughput is limited to 2g of acceleration, unless you give it infinite time as well it will not reach c, though it would approach it.
Doing some calculation the final speed of 33kg, falling in 2g, for 70 years, without friction is “only” 99.77% the speed of light.
Edit: Forgot to convert the 0.9977c to percent.
What about quantum entanglement sending a signal faster than light?
(I’m just some schmo who watched an extra credit history series on quantum computing, so there’s every chance in the world that I don’t have it right. )
While the entanglement “signal” is near instantaneous, for various reasons no meaningful information can be deciphered faster than C.
Assuming our quantum theory, while not complete, is not wrong. We will not be able to engineer our way around this limit. A lot of funky shit becomes possible if you can break causality even with “just” information.
I thought the reason quantum theory is so controversial is because it does break causality. Like, currently we can’t decipher it, but is that supposed to be a permanent state- that quantum information is indecipherable until it would no longer transmit information faster than light?
You can transmit something, but it has a noise added to it. To decode it, you need to send the readings to the other end, via normal means. Basically, the receiver can tell, in hindsight, that a message was sent, but only once its other half has been received via normal means. The best you can do is get a timestamp of when the message was sent, as well as a message channel that is impossible to intercept.
The problem comes when QM meets relativity. With instant communication, you can send information into its own past. E.g. A and B are 2 planets. C is a ship, passing planet B at relativistic speeds. Planet A sends a message to B, over the FTL link. B then sends it to C, over a normal link. C, finally sends it back to A over FTL. Due to the ‘tilt’ of C’s light cone, the “now” of A-C is behind the “now” of A-B. This allows for paradoxical situations. The maths of Relativity implies that you can’t form a closed time loop like this. Such behaviours tend to imply some deeper rule, even if we haven’t found its cause yet.
Quantum mechanics has a lot of strangeness. It also seems to play fast, but not loose with causality. E.g. objects can move backwards in time, but still obey causality. Others can be smeared over time space, but still collapse to a causality obeying state. Etc
Quantum theory is only “controversial” to the general public, mainly because we haven’t found a way to explain in simple terms things like superposition, entanglement, quantum tunneling. Quantum theory is spectacularly successful, though incomplete.
Even the “simple” stuff like the uncertainty principle takes a detailed understanding to properly grasp why there are pairs of properties that are inherently linked, and that information about one dictates how much you can know about the other. e.g. position/momentum and energy/time.
I might be wrong, but iirc quantum theory just straight up doesn’t give a shit about causality. Where everything else requires the cause to be observable before effect (something travelling faster than light would result in effect being potentially observed before cause), quantum theory says, “why does the universe give a fuck whether or not we can see it? If it happened, it happened, regardless of whether or not we observed cause before or after effect.”
Basically as far as we can tell there there is no information traveling at FTL speed so it just works? All information that is traveling is just as fast as c or slower.
“Certain phenomena in quantum mechanics, such as quantum entanglement, might give the superficial impression of allowing communication of information faster than light. According to the no-communication theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication; they only let two observers in different locations see the same system simultaneously, without any way of controlling what either sees.” link
“In physics, the no-communication theorem or no-signaling principle is a no-go theorem from quantum information theory which states that, during measurement of an entangled quantum state, it is not possible for one observer, by making a measurement of a subsystem of the total state, to communicate information to another observer.” link
Thank you for this, by the way. I was thinking of the two entangled electrons as communicating with each other, rather than people communicating with each other through the entangled electrons, which I think makes a difference, because it doesn’t rely on interpretation, but obviously we can’t measure how or if electrons “communicate.” Is it correct that one of the limitations is in interpretation or am I reading this wrong?
Well, yes. We don’t know if the measurement we take is the result of a wave form collapse (we caused it) or the result of someone else having measured it, which would giving us the oposite value that they measured. We can’t tell if someone “sent” information or if it was the random result and we have no way to chose what value we (or the other end) gets when we collapse it.
This isn’t easy to explain over text so I’d recommend watching this video, specifically chapter “How to exploit?” as the visuals make it easier to understand.
Velocity changes how time works. The faster you go, the slower it happens.
A half room full of sandstone is 33kg? 27m³ room filled half with sandstone? By my calculation it’s more like 31,400 kg
whoops, I mistook 1 m³ as 100 cm³
You can’t pull things out of the pocket without going in there first, which would be deadly in your situation. (OP says you can go in and out, and you can take things with you.)
There is an eject button for those inside to get out if something happens to you
In this case, when i die; the button will immeadiately get summoned inside the box only to be presssed an instant later
How would it be pressed? Wouldn’t anything entering the box at that point be akin to pushing a toothpick into a sanding belt?
Cameras in every corner and hold the world monopoly on 0 g porn.
Is there a course I can take to be able to produce ideas this inspiring?
It’s called The Internet afaik.
The amount of chaotic fuckery you could do with this…
Driver tailgating me? Here, enjoy 3m³ of ocean water, fuckface.
Some big religious event? Imagine the shitstorm that would happen if 3m³ of locust just appeared out of nowhere!
Trump rally?
BeesHornets.“How can I use my pocket dimension to fuck with ___” would be my new approach to pretty much every encounter for the rest of my life, lol.
This worries me a lot. Why would you want to do any of that? Write a story about that, sure. But doing it? Why? You could seriously harm and hurt people. Doesn’t sound right.
I guess let’s pick apart each one:
Ocean water - idk how the release would play out, but I’m picturing an opening big enough for a person to fit through, like a manhole, releasing as a stream. While a lot, I don’t think that’d be near enough to cause a hydroplaning situation, but it’d DEFINITELY get them off my ass, so win. Assuming the highest potential for harm here, all 3m³ released at the same time, yeah that could fuck up their trajectory in a way that sends them upsided down into a ditch… but if they’re tailgating, they’re already putting my safety in jeopardy, so they’ve crossed the line into me not caring if the solution does the same to theirs. Closest thing I’ve done IRL was spotting a piece of debris (chunk of a bumper or something from another car) on the road ahead while being tailgated, and I waited until the VERY last second to dodge it - the dude tailgating didn’t have time to react, so he drove right into it. Made a really satisfying crunch, and he pulled over presumably to check for damages. Lost sight of him shortly after, since I just kept going. Could it have hurt or even killed him? Yeah, if he turned sharp and started rolling or something. Could his driving habits have seriously hurt or killed me? Also yes, so fuck him: my goal is to get him off my ass, not baby him.
Locust - Not seeing the potential for harm here. The religious nuts would be on high alert watching for fireballs coming down from the sky or rivers to turn to blood; but locusts are just big grasshoppers - not like they’re going to start hunting people down. Seeing that hysteria unfold would be great fun!
Hornets - Kinda same spiel as the driving bit. You’ve probably seen that response to the paradox of tolerance, if not clicky. We’re talking about a group of people whose goal it is to harm/kill me, my family, my neighbors, etc. And since that’s the case, I don’t owe them protection from harm. Hornet it up.
But you can’t teleport out somewhere other than where you teleported it in. Your road rage fantasy wouldn’t play out in your favor. You could fill the pocket dimension up overnight by teleporting in water from the bathtub faucet, and you could take a swim in it whenever you want to (and presumably teleport out completely dry since you and your clothes teleported in from different places). But when you teleport it out while on the highway, you’d just end up releasing 4,000 gallons of water into your bathroom at home where you teleported it in.
On a scary note, if you were to enter the pocket dimension while it was filled with water from another location, I would strongly recommend against drinking any of it, given the potentially fatal consequences of teleporting back out…
I think you misunderstood something.
You can only teleport out to where you teleported in from.
Yes, so it’s not a transportation device. It does carry stuff with it. So you can put something in it at home, and take it out at work, or wherever.
It’s not a transportation device, but I can put people in it one place and take them out at another? Does everyone/everything else follow a different set of rules than me, owner of the pocket dimension?
People can’t, including you, but things can be moved. You can put you laptop in there, then take it out at work. At least that’s how I interpreted the rule.
How about just living in it.
yeah im on team isolate myself in the 3x3x3 personal universe
Sounds like purgatory.
pergatory, personal universe, semantics
You can’t leave purgatory at will
What’s purgatory for some is just another Tuesday.
Assuming that I can take it wherever, and when I’m in it, no one can see any trace of it…
I would find locations where valuable items would be in the near future. Go to that place, hop in my box, and wait for night fall. Then I would magically materialize in a strange masked bandit costume, rob them blind, and disappear. Then pop out a few days later in different clothes to make my casual exit.
Ideally, I’d go in and out inside a bathroom nearby so it’s less conspicuous.
Thievery and smuggling, perfectly designed for that.
I’d probably use it as having a lot of extra portable storage space, so it’d probably get filled up with a bunch of junk real fast. also I’d have the coolest battery pack
Minecraft pockets!
New Cable storage solution!
Some ideas:
- A fast way to dig holes, if ‘soil’ or ‘stone’ is an object.
- Annoy physics teachers – move in and out to drive a piston. Perpetual motion!
- Moving day is easy.
- Server farm.
- Safe house.
- Is momentum conserved? Not sure how general relativity would work. Win a Nobel Prize.
- Building stuff in space just got a lot easier and safer. 27 cubic meters of free payload!
Ooooh! A little home datacenter in the edge of a room. Sounds fun :o
My concern with this is they said nothing about the exchange of air or heat in this space. Such a small space would get very warm pretty quickly and with it not touching anything it would retain the heat. The air would also not exchange unless you manually did it making it eventually suffocate you.
Well if that’s the case, is it even oxygenated in the first place? Even if it is, if there is no venting you would eventually either deplete oxygen or saturate with C02.
They said you could bring things in so I suppose you could bring the air with you.
After a quick googling it looks like the average person breathes 20-30 cubic meters of air a day.
But a server wouldn’t care about oxygen in the air just the heat.
Oh in my mind a 3m x 3m room is huge (I live in Asia). A 3m cubed room would be the largest room in my house. My house is only 2.3m wide, the biggest room is like 2.5m x 2.3m!
This is a terrifying power, I gotta say. Like a dude could carry an entire armory around and deploy it Looney-toons-style wherever he wanted.
I would probably just put a bunch of shelves in it and use it as a personal EDC gear storage space. 3m^3 is more than enough space to store pretty much anything you might need in a jiffy.
There’s also apart of me that thinks putting a bed in there would mean not having to bring a date back to your place or to a hotel - but being real I’d probably never use it if I set it up like that.
The thought of having literally every tool conceivable immediately available without having to move is fantastic.
I’m in love with the concept of laying under my car, while also being able to get any particular tool in my hand, without ever having to get up, or having a little pile of sockets, wrenches, and bolts next to me that I have to navigate by feel.
You know, every time there’s a mass shooting in the US, a lot is made out of their big collection, but I always think about how you can only shoot one at once anyway, so it’s actually a dumb thing to fixate on.
The real evil use would be telling nobody and becoming the world’s best smuggler.
I mean, I’m not just talking about the guns. Imagine you’re at the bank, and then an individual in full tactical gear materializes behind you. He has a substantial amount of ammo and disappears every time he reloads. Molotovs, grenades, hell, you could even fit a flamethrower. You could fit a massive bomb into that space if you wanted. And you could potentially completely escape the effects of the blast inside you pocket dimension.
I’m not so sure about the smuggling thing. You would still likely be found out, since you’d have clientele and would be traceable to them either via phone, online messaging, or in-person interactions. Sure, you are immediately known about in the terrorist cases but you could pretty easily hide out pursuit, potentially getting away with multiple attacks, and there’d be little-to-no indicators of what’s about to happen for the victims until you appeared.
Like, this is some shit straight out of The Boys.
I mean, I’m not just talking about the guns. Imagine you’re at the bank, and then an individual in full tactical gear materializes behind you. He has a substantial amount of ammo and disappears every time he reloads. Molotovs, grenades, hell, you could even fit a flamethrower. You could fit a massive bomb into that space if you wanted. And you could potentially completely escape the effects of the blast inside you pocket dimension.
Okay, but it still doesn’t take more than one good hit to take said guy down - even in a vanishing tank they would eventually figure out where to direct the airstrike. And the bank would have given him the exact same cash drawer with just an imaginary gun he claims is in his pocket.
Yes, you absolutely would still get on the radar after a while as a big smuggler. Or whacked by a rival in your chosen organised crime group or insurgency. A Western government couldn’t really charge you with smuggling unless they can prove you have magical powers, though, and they would have to try and catch you doing something else illegal instead. The one exception I can think of is if you figured out something you can be the end consumer of, as well, but I don’t know what that would be.
Edit: Although, bombing might be an idea. You could fit a couple week’s supplies and and a car bomb amount of explosives in there, no problem. I doubt it would be more lucrative or safer than smuggling, though.
I would get a metal rod of four meters, and teleport into the pocket universe to see what happened.
it’s set down diagonally so it fits
And even if OP had said 10, the obvious thing is for it just not to work. Either teleportation fails or the rod is left behind.
Long trips on planes/trains/busses would be a lot more enjoyable.
Emergency supplies would be available at a moments notice including escape from the elements (camping/travel just became a breeze) .
Would you be able to free dive super deep taking each breath or a rest in the pocket dimmension?
Since the pocket dimension would be sea level pressure, dipping into it for a breath when you’re deep is a sure way to get the bends, which would be a painful way to die. (Especially if nobody is there to help you.)
Isn’t the bends the consequence of the oxygen tank and nitrogen in your blood; and if the air in your body starts at atmospheric pressure it should be fine (though no idea about the effects on the human body from such a sudden change)
You are absolutely correct. Breathing surface air would negate the bends. It’s why freedivers can go down and straight back up from 400ft with no ill effects.
Yes. People seem to think the bends always happens on exposure to weird pressures, but it just doesn’t. I guess they’re understandably imagining it’s the same as hot or cold.
(though no idea about the effects on the human body from such a sudden change)
Well, enough delta p is entirely capable of squishing an entire person through a thumb-sized hole, and while there’s no hole here I image there’d still be some sort of shock wave, and the air already in your lungs returning to normal volume suddenly would be uncomfortable. Don’t go too deep the first time, definitely ease into it.
Interestingly just 1 atm is fairly harmless. The first time someone got caught in a vacuum chamber they weren’t sure what they’d find, but the guy just got up and said his ears hurt.
Goddamn you physics
Also, would you leave a void in the water if you teleported out of it, or a big puddle in your cube going the other way?
The plane would keep moving while you left, so… you would come back in to empty space.
So would, like earth, or even the Milky Way. All motion is relative. Gotta define what “the same place you teleported in from” means…
Wouldn’t the same logic apply to the planet moving?
I think it was the Hitchhikers books that made that joke in relation to people inventing time travel. They travel to some other point in time and die in space because the earth isn’t in that spot any more.
All the real theoretical kinds of time travel involve a physical path you have to move along with a specific start and end point, because yeah, otherwise the frame of reference would be ambiguous.
