A few examples include s*x questions on askreddit, “this” comments, nolife powermods, jokes being more frequent than actual answers
Needlessly censoring words like sex. It wasn’t necessary on Reddit and it certainly isn’t necessary now.
I agree. It’s absolutely absurd that would say something along the lines of “Fuck, I got r*ped, what do I do?”
I’m of the opinion that you shouldn’t censor any words. If you feel the need to censor it, then just don’t say it. If you want to discuss it, then be able to say it. You should be able to say something like “X called Y a nigger”.
Censorship like that was introduced to make the platform appealing to advertisers. I’d say just don’t give power over how to run the platform to advertisers.
I find it absolutely mind blowing that people are generally accepting that as okay on most social media platforms.
I can only assume that people don’t understand why it was brought in on YouTube and TikTok in the first place because so many people do it when it isn’t remotely necessary. If you make your living posting on social media, then fair enough, I understand you need to fall inline with the rules of the platform. But why the hell would you self censor posts you don’t make money from? Utterly ridiculous.
All they know is that The Algorithm won’t show their posts if they use those words. How anyone can understand that and not see how incredibly fucked up that is, though, I don’t know.
I’d say people worrying about Karma.
karma (or upvotes-downvotes aka simple karma) shouldn’t be a reason to disallow someone from using a lemmy community
Requiring minimum positive karma is stupid when it can be gamed so easily.
Someone with very negative karma is likely a troll.
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I don’t agree,
/sis immensely useful for neurodivergent people, some of which cannot recognize sarcasm at all.Also, really often something that is “obvious sarcasm” for you is a genuinely held belief by someone online. Nothing is too ridiculous for the internet
Maybe internet forums aren’t the best place for people that can’t recognize context.
Why should we exclude neurodiverse people from a space when it’s easy enough to make it accessible?
Apparently reddit and lemmy are the only places they socialize, so whatever.
Do you active dislike neurodiverse people or you just prefer to surround you only with people you can relate to?
Just because you don’t care about certain groups of people who are not actively damaging for the world, that doesn’t mean that they should be excluded from here.
As someone who is incredibly tone deaf in written conversation, please don’t get rid of the /s. It really does help
Reddit became too America focused. Most of the posts were about America or assumed everyone reading was American. It felt very exclusionary.
I think this will remain a problem on any platform that includes enough Americans. The general public in America just seems unaware of anything outside America.
I think this stems from their education system, what they (don’t) broadcast on mass-media and how normal and even laudable they consider fanatical nationalism to be (did you know they require children to swear devotion to the nation state every day at school!?).
In any case, I don’t think this is a problem that any platform that wants to include Americans can avoid.
I saw this complaint on reddit a lot, but at the end of the day, it was a US based site. Of course there will be mostly Americans and they will default to that understanding.
Also, the US is a large country. It’s not like Europe where you’re a day trip away from 5 other countries. Most Americans can’t afford travel outside the US, so they only have exposure to the many cultures within the US.
The hate Americans get for not catering discussion on a US based site to the global community is really what’s strange.
Most Americans can’t afford travel outside the US, so they only have exposure to the many cultures within the US.
You can travel in a straight line over land 2700 miles from Washington to Florida without leaving the United States. Make a foray into Canada and you can travel a 4300 mile long straight line from Alaska to Florida without leaving a country that speaks majority English.
I’m pretty sure that if you visit all states and provinces, it would be a lot more than 4300 miles
True that. I was just looking at straight lines (or what “straight line” is when you’re traveling across a sphere)
This comment itself is ironically filled with American exceptionalism mythology.
I’m curious, which part is a myth? I only see facts and not all of them paint America as great.
These things exist elsewhere, besides. Just not always in “the West.”
Americans size doesn’t excuse their ignorance and a lot of other countries don’t believe they are the only country the way americans do.
Let me simplify this. Would you go to a forum with an address in .ar and complain that the discussion doesn’t pertain to you? You wouldn’t, but you are just blindly hateful of Americans for whatever reason.
Fine if you want your websites to be an american echo chamber you do you. Thats what you want not me and thats not what sites you probably claim to be american advertise themselves as either.
America is far from a monolith. Our states roughly equate to different European countries with vastly different cultures, foods, rights and laws.
We just speak dialects that are almost all the same and roll up under one political entity. It is not so dissimilar than the EU, otherwise.
We are, in many practical terms a forced confederation with a shared Constitution. There are those, like in the EU, who want out.
Edit: the shared single language is one of our under-recognized super-powers. I can travel this huge land mass and communicate viably everywhere. It is key to our cultural impact. It is accidental, but helpful to us. Except when we have people who dislike our impact and become hostile.
Which Americans are you talking to? We know there are other countries and cultures. We just aren’t responsible for learning deeply about all of them. No one is.
You’re using some strong, broad strokes that aren’t reflective of my experience at all.
You should learn about experiences outside your own that you are not is not a good thing.
I am learning those things… hell, I’m studying a completely different language and learning the history.
I think I’m not who you think I am.
The above is one example.
You don’t have a high ground, here.
Milking the deaths of beloved celebrities for fake internet points and people destroying their “F” keys as though someone just died in a video game, like r🤮ddit did with Carrie Fisher, Technoblade, Shinzo Abe, the Queen of England…
It’s just so pathetic and disrespectful.
If you can’t even get yourself to write the word sex, the questions on askreddit were probably not the issue…
Making all these posts on Lemmy be about another site.
The community won’t flourish if the only thing people are talking about is their social-media ex.
To make the ex metaphor. Talking shit about your ex is not productive but talking about what was wrong or didn’t work can be very insightful. Entirely blocking your ex out of your mind is a pretty easy way to make the same mistakes again.
I can see why people think it’s annoying but I think this is also a good thing. Talking about this helps people understand what they want to see in their communities or instances.
I think we need to give it some time. I was not there when Digg went bad but I’m assuming that in the early days of Reddit, there was a lot of discussion about Digg. Once Reddit reached a critical mass, posts about Digg died down.
There’s a lot of discussion about Twitter imploding too. It’s not just that it’s an ex for most of us. It’s also the tech implosion.
Also Meta wants to join the fediverse with Threads.
A lot of it is just people talking about their social media ex, but it IS part of a larger discussion about taking the internet back from corporations.
Censoring inoffensive words like sex.
Yes, thank you. Excessive prudishness and self censoring is always an indicator to me that a community is going a weird direction.
In the last year I started noticing on Reddit people typing the ‘letter’-word and half the time I wouldn’t know what word they are referring to.
On a couple occasions I would reply asking what word they meant and they would reply that I should know, with my comment downvoted.
That reminds me of another thing I was sick of seeing, people asking a question and getting told to google it or that lmgtfy link. You would later see people in the comments mentioning that Google took them there when Googling for it.
Calling communities “master race” as in /r/pcmasterrace
Lol everyone should go read the couple of posts on the community / magazine with the same name. Hilarious seeing people so triggered by people pointing out that the name is a bit problematic.
IIRC, it started of as a joke and an explicit nazi reference to make fun of PC gaming fanboys, and then they just embraced it without understanding the context?
The usual cycle of edgy jokes. They start off as mocking a group of bad actors, then those same bad actors miss the joke and take on the term for themselves without irony.
the origin is this exact video: https://youtu.be/P0dXtOVi2yo
There was a second factor in its creation that most people have forgotten, involving a power-tripping mod on /r/gaming. People were posting their gaming setups (both consoles and PCs) when one mod decided to ban all pictures of gaming PCs for a very stupid reason. So PCMR got a lot of initial subscribers from leaving the “dirty console peasants” behind, with that mod’s stupidity held up as a representative of the console community. Hence the joke, especially the “superiority” jokes.
The sub was created specifically because of the joke. It’s always been a joke. Who honestly believes that which system you choose to game on is a genetic or racial trait anyways? It’s a ridiculously exaggerated take on the “console wars.”
Outrage bait. Too much of reddit was stories and videos of people acting badly.
Not just frequent jokes, but those annoying ever-repeating jokes. Like as if 80% of users were the same person. Before opening any post on Reddit, there is a good chance to be able to correctly predict the exact content of a significant portion of the comments. I get that it can be funny to an individual to come across stuff like “I also choose this guys wife” or “And my axe” more than once. But for people like me, who did not just start using the website, it is really annoying to come across the same jokes literally hundreds of times.
This goes hand in hand with the general idea of a “Reddit hivemind”. Depending on the subs you visit, you can see that Reddits userbase is actually really diverse. There are people from every demographic with all kinds of different life experiences. But in a lot of subs, anytime a woman is mentioned there is a flood of people acting like as if there are no women on the internet and as if no person using Reddit could have a girlfriend. Again, I get that it can be funny once or twice. But when the idea that every user must be a typical “Redditor” gets repeated all the time it’s just annoying. Needless to say that I don’t look forward to being called a “Lemming” on this site.
Also, repeating comments on the same post. Obviously you don’t have to read all the comments if there are already hundreds of them. But if there are too many comments saying the exact same thing it just gets harder to read them all. So it would be nice if people would look whether the point they want to make maybe has been made already. They can increase that comment’s visibility by upvoting. No need to make other people read the same content multiple times and by that make it harder to read different comments.
Anyone who comments “this”, “holup”, or “came here to say this” can go fuck themselves.
Now Holup, I came here to say this. Have my updoot kind internet stranger.
This ^
Ragebait. It’s boring and pointless, and it brings out the worst in everyone. I never understood the appeal of being a “troll” though, so idk.
Something else I don’t miss, and maybe this is a little more personal, but often when I would try to participate in a conversation, my comment would get auto-removed for some rule/etiquette based reason I could never really wrap my head around. Like, derailing? I thought I knew what that meant, but had comments removed when I was like, “yeah that answer really resonates with me too! My 123 is xyz.”
Lemmy so far has been much more welcoming to the neurodiverse and I appreciate the organic, freeflowing nature of conversation here.
Obviously, if someone’s being provocatively hateful / an obvious troll, then nuke 'em.
But if people are just trying to join in on the conversation, don’t be a pedantic dick about exactly what kind of conversation is allowed. It had gotten to the point where I was afraid to comment at all for fear I’d be doing it wrong.
I think being a troll should go like this, and I’ll use the wiae Tom Scott’s words here because he summed it up pretty well
“it turns out that while mocking the government is a reasonably good gag, mocking the government and then having the government not find it funny, that is a really good gag.”
The moral here, don’t just troll random people with lives to life. Troll the government and arsehole corporations.
Please tell the German speaking, highly pro-Last Generation/Extinction Rebellion instances this.
I hope to see less song lyric comment chains on completely unrelated posts. Also I don’t know why, but I always hated the whole, ‘my partner, let’s call them blank (not real name)’ thing.
The thing about comment chains is you can collapse them so don’t see anything wrong. Let people have their fun and sense of connection with strangers on the internet.
I have exactly zero confidence that these or other bad pattern will not emerge as the community grows larger
This is why we can’t have nice things.
Cross community censorship: For example on Reddit you wrote a comment in subreddit A (maybe even a negative one for that topic!) and then subreddits B, C and D permanently ban your account. If someone starts with that crap again they should be shunned.
Oh and verified users only communities, that sucked too.
Now, you post a hot take it’s your entire server that goes on the black list.
Fr. The crying about defederating this or that I see from all kinds of instances when browsing everything is already giving me a bad taste. If you don’t like something, block it your own damn self. Jesus fuck. You can block communities. You can make your own personal instance just to black/white list instances themselves for now if you want to be that widespread with blocks. You can probably find a tool to mass block as a regular user and not need that. You could just browse by subscribed and never see anything you didn’t add again. So many things you, an individual, can do to curate your own shit without affecting every other user on the instance.
Any instance that hosts r/coontown2.0 or similar can get fucked in my opinion. Defederate immediately. If they want to play they can have standards.
