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    11 months ago

    It’s mostly bullshit.

    Eat a balanced diet and stop stressing about specifics. Eat meat sparingly. Don’t drink at all and it’ll make a bigger difference in your life than seed oils. Drink in moderation if you can’t handle that. Have fruits and veggies daily, as fresh as you can get them. Walk a few miles a day.

    All the basic easy stuff is the most effective. There are no tricks, shortcuts or gotchas.

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    They’re higher in inflammatory fats (most seed oils are predominantly composed of omega-6 polyunsaturated fats/inflammatory fats). While our bodies do need some inflammatory and anti-inflammatory fats (sort of like we need Cholesterol) we do not need too much. Calling them toxic is a step too far, but all foods should be consumed in moderation.

    https://www.matherhospital.org/wellness-at-mather/diet-nutrition/the-connection-between-diet-and-inflammation/

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        Yep, that’s the main problem with all the buzzword substances that diet culture is obsessed with: fat, salt, carbs, etc… All of those are fine in moderation, but the problem is that the processed garbage that the average person eats for lunch contains a RIDICULOUS amount of those things.

        Not sugar, though. Sugar is just bad for you, full stop. 😆

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          If sugar is bad for you, vegetable starch is as well. Vegetable starches (potato, rice, wheat, corn) are chains of glucose molecules. They’re metabolized and raise blood glucose even faster than sucrose.

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            Obviously there are various forms of sugar in a lot of things, it’s just a carbohydrate. My point is that there is zero reason to ever ADD sugar to any food, period. It is not an essential nutrient and it does not add anything beneficial other than flavor. It only promotes tooth decay, diabetes, and eventual organ failure. Yum.

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              My point is that there is zero reason to ever ADD sugar to any food, period

              But you said it yourself, the reason to add it is for flavor.

              Whether you like it or not, flavor is an incredibly important part of food and eating. Arguably the most important.

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            They aren’t great for you, unless you really need calories. Glycemic index based diets heavily limit them, so do diabetic diets, and keto practically bans them.

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              They’re good in the contexts of whole foods with protein, fiber and vitamins. I’m just pointing out that sugar and potatoes are almost the same thing.

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        It wasn’t too bad before in my opinion but this year there was a big drought in the Mediterranean and now it’s extremely expensive. Even butter is cheaper than olive oil now I’m afraid… I just try to use less of it. Speaking of butter there are now a few big studies out there showing that milk fat is not as bad as the saturated fats found in meat. But they are all funded by dairy companies so I don’t know if I can really trust them. It’s hard navigating the world of fats and health. Fats are good for you but it’s hard to know which ones are the good ones.

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          Butter has always been an order of magnitude cheaper than actual olive oil in most places I think. Maybe that’s different in OO producing regions idk

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    It depends on the seed - canola oil is known as rapeseed oil here in the UK and is good for you.

    What you want to avoid are ultra-processed foods that tend to be high in sugar, salt and bad fats.

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      They often relabel rapeseed oil as “canola” or even “vegetable” oil, but it still is strong flavoured and unhealthy to consume.

      Canola oil is known to be bad for you here in Australia, and olive oil thought to be more healthy.

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    A EXTREMELY helpful article, with scientific references covering the entire issue much better then I did below: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetable-oils

    Original reply follows - - -

    The main issue is oxidative stress caused by Omega-6 fatty acids. Omega-3 are anti-oxidants and reduce stress. The ratio of o3/o6 is helpful in seeing how it can impact your body.

    There is a small, but growing, body of research linking consumption of seed oils with metabolic problems (diabetes)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGnfXXIKZM

    I recommend this whole playlist

    For people who are concerned about oxidative stress, they tend to cook food in fats, and avoid seed oil issues all together. Olive oil is a good seed oil, but getting a unadulterated pure source is problematic.

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    Nothing wrong with them, but a lot of “alternative medicine” special interest groups wants you to believe there is, as evidenced by a lot of the links uncritically posted in this very thread alone.