• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The big user experience problem is everyone is getting funneled into Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml, and they can’t scare fast enough.

    But Lemmy is federated. So signup for a smaller instance. You’ll still be able to subscribe and post to communities on other instances.

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      1 year ago

      Ha, I applied to two smaller instances and have heard nothing but radio silence. The smaller instances are of no help if they don’t let anyone in.

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        1 year ago

        I’m still wrapping my head around things so someone please correct me if I’ve got the wrong idea. But here’s how i see it:

        It’s kinda similar to the “United States” being a large group of individual self contained entities (states/servers) with their own rules and resources while all being interconnected. You can live in New York (join lemmy.ml) and be fully part of the US (lemmy as a whole) and are totally free to travel to California (lemmy.world) in a car/airplane (whatever frontend/app you prefer) and hang out and participate there.

        Instances can also decide to exclude themselves/other instances if they don’t agree with the rest of the group (Texas wanting to secede, the US wanting to chop off Florida into the gulf of mexico… sorry FL, only kidding, we love you)

        If you feel like New York is too crowded, too much traffic on the roads, you can choose to live in Maine (a smaller less populated instance) instead and still be part of the group.

        You can even dump a bunch of soil into the ocean and create your own state (hosting your own server) that can participate with the others, or choose to isolate yourself from the world and only allow participation on your island (North Korea?)

        Apologies for the america-centric reply but it’s where i live and what I’m familiar with.

        • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          All in all, they have some of the biggest communities for gay folks, Trans folks, and other minority groups. Lots of trolls from large open instances were shit posting lots of hateful crap in those communities.

          The Lemmy’s mod tools are still kind of janky and they couldn’t keep pace with the toxic trolling, so they made the call to defederate from instances like Lemmy.world temporarily, until some new mod tools get built.

          All the admins from the defederated instances get it and they all appear to be on the same page.

          That said, users got pissed because beehaw has one of the best tech communities. So now people on Lemmy.world don’t have their posts / comments show up in those communities.

          Basically, they had two shitty options, and they went with protecting the vulnerable minority.

          It’s temporary.

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          1 year ago

          Post by beehaw admins

          Basically, due to the size and open registrations on some large instances, Beehaw admins decided to defederate because they didn’t have the manpower or systems in place to deal with the large volume of content.

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          Beehaw defederated from other instances as users were getting around bans by creating new accounts on those instances. The admins in question are talking about how to address this.

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          Beehaw is a community that wants to create a specific type of experience for its users, it wants to create a safer space and has stricter rules.

          I think it’s personally a non-issue that people get riled up about. They’ve temporarily defederated from lemmy.world because of the large spikes in new users and wanting to have the moderation tools necessary to handle that while keeping their community the way they want it.

          There is a subset of new Lemmy users who think this experience needs to be Reddit 2.0, that it needs to be perfect and totally smooth for new users, or else it will fail?

          Personally, I don’t agree. I don’t want Lemmy to be Reddit at all. In the last month, I’ve found that I didn’t realize just how bad my Reddit experience had become. I’m okay with the experience being a little rough around the edges here and adjusting together. It has become obvious based on how good my interactions were here. How solid and interesting the content was. I’m not fiending for my specific subreddits, I’m good to move on and find new areas to focus on the internet.

          I have a separate account for Beehaw, all the iOS apps already have way way better functionality than the Reddit official app, I can seamlessly switch between accounts. It’s been absolutely amazing to see how much this site and experience has evolved in one month. I’m super excited for the future here.

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            One thing I don’t miss is the “culture”… I hope this shift into the fediverse frees comment sections of the endless same dumb low effort puns, and even worse puns in the replies. Or fucking award speeches in comment edits, the same shitty jokes that nobody likes but somehow still perpetuate…

            I really look forward to something new

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              I’m late to the conversation. Yeah, that’s what I hated about Reddit. I’ve been using it since 2009, and I noticed that it got progressively worse the moment they introduced karma.

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          They are overly sensitive special snowflakes that pipi their pampers if anybody that doesn’t have 100% the same opinions as them is allowed to use the internet

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            1 year ago

            Motives aside, the point is one account won’t always get you everywhere. Doing a little research before picking a home instance can’t hurt.

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      1 year ago

      That’s where join-lemmy really missed out. They should have introduced a set of rules like join-mastodon where instances must have at least two admins, a clear code of conduct, and clear rules as to how they manage closedown. That way users would be reasonably safe in picking an instance at random. But they didn’t so everyone should go to safe choices like lemmy.world.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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        Everyone keeps saying to join the smaller instances, but the reason people aren’t is because they are harder to find and usually have application gates thrown up. Because you can’t apply through the app, and because I am on mobile, I don’t even know how many Instances I applied for and then forgot what the instance was even called by the time they may or may not have approved.

        All of this needs to be laid out better from the get-go. Even simply listing a server strain metric or warning (even if it’s something admins set themselves) would be useful.

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      I was on world at first because I thought each instance was its own subreddit, so I went with the one with the most users! After a day and a half I somewhat understand instances now and have switched to a smaller one. Hopefully other reddit refugees will do it too.

      Thanks for being so welcoming and patient with us. I’m really glad to be here.

    • danc4498@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      The real magic is that you don’t even have to use Lemmy. You can use Kbin if you like that interface better.